Burgeoning Battle Gamma ToddMcF2002 Posted August 10, 2011 Share Posted August 10, 2011 OK.... you can't be serious! I think I may have hit end game for me . I can't seem to progress at all. I can get Vossizon down to 45% health and then I'm dead. My completely maxed out (strength and endurance) drayk can't take on all the spawned worms to buy me time to wear Vossizon down. I can't recruit that other drakon either, he doesn't give me the option. I don't have too many other options. I can't kill the eyeball with its army of protectors. I can't take on Miranda and Alwan and that 3rd Shaper. All other paths are cleared out. Pretty frustrating game now. Do warriors just peter out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Randomizer Posted August 10, 2011 Share Posted August 10, 2011 It depends what you did with the warrior. A pure combat one tends to have trouble on higher difficulties. In that fight daze or charm to keep from getting swarmed helps, but that takes lots of mental magic. Your creations might help, but I find that having more of them helps rather than one really powerful one. There is another route to where you want to go that can be done with some sneaking around the edges of the zone southwest of where you are now. I don't remember how much combat is involved to get there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgeoning Battle Gamma ToddMcF2002 Posted August 10, 2011 Author Share Posted August 10, 2011 Thanks for your help. I'm desperate now! Because of the Drakons Resistances I'm only getting around 60 damage per round. I'm using the Guardian broadsword I added acid damage to. Drayk does about 40 damage per round. Myself and the Drayk are hasted, blessed and Essence Shielded. I've also tried this a few times with 3 additional Fyora. They can't hit anything and don't last more than a few rounds. My warrior looks like this: Level 39 HP 452 Essence 465 str 12 int 13 End 10 Melee 10 Quick 12 Fire Creation 5 Mental Magic 3 (Daze 2) Resistances vary based on equipment, fire around 60 for this, but the worms do acid and it is hard to cover both at once. I've never actually tried Daze, but I'm pretty low. Might work on worms? I think the Quick Action investment is holding me back. I probably should have jacked up endurance? Drayk: Level 41 730 HP Str 30 Dex 20 Int 26 End 30 I'm wondering if I should use an editor to shift points from Quick Action (which appears to be completely useless) to Endurance??? Is that even possible? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Randomizer Posted August 10, 2011 Share Posted August 10, 2011 You probably don't have enough to do mental attacks with enough success. Quick action gives you a chance for an extra melee attack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Triumph Posted August 10, 2011 Share Posted August 10, 2011 Have you considered dropping the difficulty level? That's a possible solution when all else fails. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgeoning Battle Gamma ToddMcF2002 Posted August 10, 2011 Author Share Posted August 10, 2011 I've never witnessed Quick Action give me anything frankly. Only Speed gives me the extra attack. I'm going to try a few things including using pilons to summon things so I can get another level. I have 6 skill points in reserve, maybe I can pump up my metal attacks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Triumph Posted August 10, 2011 Share Posted August 10, 2011 Speed gives you more action points, so you can take more actions. Quick Action, on the other hand, actually sometimes causes you to strike twice when you make a melee attack. The game says "high gives a second attack!" or something along that line, the attack animation will run twice, two hits will occur. It's a very worthwhile skill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgeoning Battle Gamma ToddMcF2002 Posted August 10, 2011 Author Share Posted August 10, 2011 I'll watch for the animation, I've not noticed it. So with the +2 mind attack ring and two level ups I got level 7 and found greater daze. Unfortunately... the damn worms are all immune! Any other ideas? I saved before allocating all the points, so there is something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Randomizer Posted August 10, 2011 Share Posted August 10, 2011 I don't have the game on my computer so I can't give you the route, but there is another route to the west gate of Quess-Uss that you could take. It involves sneaking past a servile camp in a zone southwest of where you are now. This might be easier for your character and you can come back here later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgeoning Battle Gamma ToddMcF2002 Posted August 10, 2011 Author Share Posted August 10, 2011 Well I finally took her out. I amped up my Melee and put on some strength boosting equipment. I did lose my Drayk though. Now I have a Cyrak and a Drayk. So far I think I'm stronger as a result. One question... and I'm not looking for a spoiler but I want to make sure I didn't break the game. I defeated Alwan and Miranda in Polyphra, but they fled instead of dying. I didn't break the game did I? Its ok to clear that area? They both fled with 1HP so I'm assuming they were invincible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Dikiyoba Posted August 10, 2011 Share Posted August 10, 2011 Yes, you'll meet the two of them later on in the game and be able to kill them then. Dikiyoba. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgeoning Battle Gamma ToddMcF2002 Posted August 11, 2011 Author Share Posted August 11, 2011 I finished the game. I can't say I've completed a game more challenging than this. I think it was a combo of my newbiness to the geneforge series along with picking a rebel route. I'm not sure exactly. In the end I had to focus on Melee and Strength to have enough firepower to survive. In more difficult fights I had to resort to cover to heal, using my cryodrayks as meat shields. Anyway... its done. Great game. More insight into the stats system would have been nice though. Tables and such... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Randomizer Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 That's what Strategy Central is for to provide links to some of information that is left out of the manual. With the changes between games we all need a place to look up information. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgeoning Battle Gamma ToddMcF2002 Posted August 12, 2011 Author Share Posted August 12, 2011 I poured through that stuff and there is some interesting info. GF5 seems to have tons of info. I'm trying Avadon now, then back to GF1. Thanks for all the help! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgeoning Battle Gamma Mivayan Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 A bit late I know - but the small summoned worms were fairly easy to kill with the swarm(?) crystals that hit 5 foes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgeoning Battle Gamma ToddMcF2002 Posted August 15, 2011 Author Share Posted August 15, 2011 Those had Area of Effect??? Never even noticed. I had about 45 of those in my quick slots at end game! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgeoning Battle Gamma Mivayan Posted August 15, 2011 Share Posted August 15, 2011 Crystals are nice and became even better with G4s action point system. Ice crystals do ice damage to one target. Spray crystals do magic damage to three targets. Swarm crystals do magic damage to five targets. Torrent gems does fire damage to.... everyone (range you your character). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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