Seasoned Roamer Lurking Eyebeast Posted February 28, 2010 Share Posted February 28, 2010 I recently downloaded the demo of the Windows version of Avernum VI: The Blight. When I was ran the installer, I was asked to agree to a license agreement. While skimming through it, I came across a paragraph which confused me. I had seen it before, (while installing Mr Vogel's previous games) but I haven't got around to asking this until now. I was under the impression that none of his games had a time limit which prevented users from playing the demos after a certain period of time. Then I saw a paragraph in the EULA which suggested that there was a time limit - albeit an unenforced one - of 30 days. The paragraph which suggested that follows (from the EULA of Avernum III: Ruined World). Quote: 3. Termination. This License is effective until terminated. You may terminate this License at any time by destroying the Software and related documentation and all copies thereof. This License will terminate thirty (30) days after receipt of the Software, unless the Software is registered with Spiderweb with appropriate compensation and registration information. This License will terminate immediately without notice from Spiderweb if you fail to comply with any provision of this License. Upon termination you must destroy the Software and related documentation and all copies thereof. I thank you in advance for your help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Randomizer Posted March 1, 2010 Share Posted March 1, 2010 It's probably boilerplate language from another software package. Jeff's big on cut and paste. This should not be construed as legal advice. Please consult a real lawyer or Jeff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt Lord Safey Posted March 1, 2010 Share Posted March 1, 2010 My understanding is Jeff more interested in making it easier to buy his software then it is to pirate it. Also I imagine he puts it their in case another company tries to rip his software he has want he needs for a law case. I doubt he sue if you downloaded a demo of his decide it wasn't for you and just forget about it on your computer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast keira Posted March 1, 2010 Share Posted March 1, 2010 So, if I first played E3 in 2001...oh yay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyshakk Koan Monroe Posted March 1, 2010 Share Posted March 1, 2010 And what, are you still playing the demo? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast keira Posted March 1, 2010 Share Posted March 1, 2010 Well, yeah. It's Jeff's fault his games have that much replay value Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unflappable Drayk Toby-Linn Posted March 1, 2010 Share Posted March 1, 2010 I think I played the demo version of E3 for more than a year, replaying over and over, until I could finally persuade my dad to buy it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Ephesos Posted March 1, 2010 Share Posted March 1, 2010 ...didn't one of the license agreements contain copy-pasted text from some NASA document? I seem to recall that coming up a few months ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Niemand Posted March 1, 2010 Share Posted March 1, 2010 There's a paragraph about the software being purchased by the U.S. government, with subparagraphs for the Department of Defense and N.A.S.A. It's in the license for BoA, and I assume it appears in the ones for other games as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Dintiradan Posted March 1, 2010 Share Posted March 1, 2010 Originally Posted By: Niemand There's a paragraph about the software being purchased by the U.S. government, with subparagraphs for the Department of Defense and N.A.S.A. It's in the license for BoA, and I assume it appears in the ones for other games as well. This. Likewise, a large number of EULA make it clear that the software is not permitted for use in nuclear power plants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Ephesos Posted March 1, 2010 Share Posted March 1, 2010 Honestly, that's probably a good thing. I would prefer that anyone working in a nuclear power plant spends their time working, rather than romping about Avernum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Spidweb Posted March 1, 2010 Share Posted March 1, 2010 It's an old boilerplate EULA that I've been using forever because it gets the job done. To answer the original question, the termination is only for unregistered copies. - Jeff Vogel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast The Mystic Posted March 2, 2010 Share Posted March 2, 2010 You know, I've never read the EULA. I just install the game, and don't give the EULA a second glance--or a first one, for that matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Ephesos Posted March 2, 2010 Share Posted March 2, 2010 Originally Posted By: The Mystic You know, I've never read the EULA. I just install the game, and don't give the EULA a second glance--or a first one, for that matter. I would hazard that roughly 98% of people do just that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody Locmaar Posted March 2, 2010 Share Posted March 2, 2010 Originally Posted By: Dintiradan Originally Posted By: Niemand There's a paragraph about the software being purchased by the U.S. government, with subparagraphs for the Department of Defense and N.A.S.A. It's in the license for BoA, and I assume it appears in the ones for other games as well. This. Likewise, a large number of EULA make it clear that the software is not permitted for use in nuclear power plants. Microsoft even specified that this was due to unstable Java components :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt Erebus the Black Posted March 7, 2010 Share Posted March 7, 2010 I heard somewhere that there was some (computer) product that came with a eula stating that if you sent a letter in so and so time to the company you would get 100$ check from it, just to see how many people actually read it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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