Rotghroth Rhapsody Ouroboros Posted February 21, 2009 Share Posted February 21, 2009 I use the "shieldsup" cheat, and its spell effect symbols appeared but the effects didn't, is this a bug? (Example : shieldsup give you haste, but my AP still 8 , attack not increased, damage not reduced) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Archaeolagent Posted February 21, 2009 Share Posted February 21, 2009 Haste does not increase AP in Geneforge 5. I'm guessing the other effects did take place, and the lack of increased AP just jumped out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgeoning Battle Gamma Trakovite Mitchell Posted February 21, 2009 Share Posted February 21, 2009 Well I used it and it appeared every few rounds, after an attack a message appears that says that you get a burst of strength, and you then get 3 AP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Archaeolagent Posted February 21, 2009 Share Posted February 21, 2009 Right, that's what I meant; it doesn't increase the AP you start with each round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody Ouroboros Posted February 21, 2009 Author Share Posted February 21, 2009 But the others effect didn't occur. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt Øther Posted February 21, 2009 Share Posted February 21, 2009 Sometimes they aren't that noticable, but they are there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Randomizer Posted February 22, 2009 Share Posted February 22, 2009 Jeff changed buffs so essence shield and essence armor are increasing percentages based upon you spell casting levels. They are quite significant later in the game. Also like armor they are multiplicative and not additive to your armor and items. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody Locmaar Posted February 22, 2009 Share Posted February 22, 2009 Haste increases the probability of your character or his minions to strike twice instead of once. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Randomizer Posted February 22, 2009 Share Posted February 22, 2009 Haste has about a 35% chance of reducing your first action to 5 AP from 8 if you are attacking or using a spell. If you went with an item usage first then you won't notice a difference. There are AP boosting items in the game, but they only have a chance of working each round. There are 3 different types so you can have between 8 and 12 AP unencumbered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Archaeolagent Posted February 22, 2009 Share Posted February 22, 2009 And to clarify, Haste absolutely does not increase the chance of getting two strikes. That's Quick Action. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody Locmaar Posted February 22, 2009 Share Posted February 22, 2009 I'm at a loss here, folks. What exactly does haste do then? I thought it made this little comment where it says that you (or your minion) feel(s) really fast and can strike twice instead of once. edit: it says something along the lines of: xxx experiences a sudden burst of speed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt Øther Posted February 22, 2009 Share Posted February 22, 2009 Thats true, what it does is once per turn, there is a chance of yours (or your minions) attack to cost 5 ap instead of 8. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody Locmaar Posted February 22, 2009 Share Posted February 22, 2009 OK, I've re-read what's been said and I have to agree. Haste does not give you a second attack per se, but it sure helps in geting one, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt Øther Posted February 22, 2009 Share Posted February 22, 2009 A little bit, but I know that in G5, haste is never used as much as in other games since of the low probabillity of another attack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall A less presumptuous name. Posted February 22, 2009 Share Posted February 22, 2009 Well, I still found it to be quite useful, since it's now an area affect spell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast *i Posted February 22, 2009 Share Posted February 22, 2009 Yeah, haste is definitely not a game changing status like it was in previous games. The increase in AP was so ridiculously powerful that it pretty much became the one necessary effect to have for any fight of note. All of the effects are there, just subtle at times. To demonstrate the effect of bless, shield, etc. Save the game, and play the fight numerous times with and without the effects. On average, you should notice a difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody Ouroboros Posted February 22, 2009 Author Share Posted February 22, 2009 Yes I notice it now thank you all for answering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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