Curious Artila nightscout Posted July 26, 2007 Share Posted July 26, 2007 I'm sorry Spidweb team I know yall worked very hard on it but, i dont like the new look for avernum 4 it seems like you're trying to turn it into geneforge or the way that combat is I mainly liked the fact that you could fight without havin to go through the whole battle thing.You wouldn't happen to have an old version from before yall made that change? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Nioca Posted July 26, 2007 Share Posted July 26, 2007 A4 only comes in one format, unless you count the change where chitrachs used to use the clawbug graphic from the Geneforge series. A5 use a similar engine, though it'll be more Avernum-ish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curious Artila nightscout Posted July 26, 2007 Author Share Posted July 26, 2007 i just prefer the graphs from back on the older ones and how you could fight then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fledgling Fyora Chroniss Posted July 27, 2007 Share Posted July 27, 2007 I agree with you Nightscout, I hate the Geneforge style that has taken over A4 and soon A5, and while I'm sure they are great games on their own account, I can't bring myself to play them as they dont "feel" like avernum anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Dikiyoba Posted July 27, 2007 Share Posted July 27, 2007 Well, whatever engine and graphics Jeff uses, someone will be off-put by them. Hopefully, A5's engine is much more streamlined than A4, what with the return of elevation and the engine advances of G4. If not, well, there's always Blades of Avernum, the updated Nethergate, and replaying the original trilogy. Dikiyoba. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Randomizer Posted July 27, 2007 Share Posted July 27, 2007 Avernum 5 is supposed to be closer to the older Avernum games than Avernum 4, but the combat still will be somewhat Geneforgish. Actually Jeff has been only giving out hints about the new combat system with battle disciplines so we don't really know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unflappable Drayk Zummi Posted July 27, 2007 Share Posted July 27, 2007 It's part of the big surprise Jeff's gonna give us..so we wait! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seasoned Roamer Foley's Body Posted July 28, 2007 Share Posted July 28, 2007 I think Avernum is dead to me... I love the graphics of Avernum 1- Blades but I hate geneforge and its combat system. If only there were other versions of AVernum 4 and 5 being made Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Ephesos Posted July 29, 2007 Share Posted July 29, 2007 Quote: Originally written by Foley's Body:I think Avernum is dead to me... I love the graphics of Avernum 1- Blades but I hate geneforge and its combat system. If only there were other versions of AVernum 4 and 5 being made Ah, I remember you. You got banned for a while, no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seasoned Roamer Foley's Body Posted July 29, 2007 Share Posted July 29, 2007 No, i was never banned. I just don't comeon here often Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Alorael at Large Posted July 29, 2007 Share Posted July 29, 2007 Luckily for you, A5 won't use the Geneforge combat system. In fact, Geneforge 4 doesn't use the Geneforge combat system. —Alorael, who can't say the new system is identical to Avernum's. Being able to attack with 1 AP makes all the difference, though. Starting with more movement is a good change, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Randomizer Posted July 30, 2007 Share Posted July 30, 2007 Jeff said we only get more actions points because we have to run further to attack. He upped the number of APs used for attacks and spells to compensate. I bet we encounter the same thing as in Geneforge 4 regarding daze. There are always enough monsters that can run in from outside the area of effect after you cast daze and still have one AP to attack you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fledgling Fyora JohnC Posted August 2, 2007 Share Posted August 2, 2007 I am glad I played Exile 1-3, and then Platyed Avernum 4 without playing the remakes of the exile games. I am nothing but happy with the graphics! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk macdude22 Posted August 3, 2007 Share Posted August 3, 2007 Graphics don't mean a lick to me. If the game is fun I'll play it. And these keep drawing me back in. Hell I still boot up Ultima and Zork on Gametap every so often because they are enjoyable. Personally I've found all the engine's and graphics to have their own charm from Exile to A4. I personally prefer these "retro" graphics to today's wham bam 3D gizmo games (Don't get me wrong Blue Dragon looks to be bubbles hawt). Sprites to me have always had an innate organic feel to them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyshakk Koan Angry Ogre Posted August 3, 2007 Share Posted August 3, 2007 Well ive never generally cared too much about graphics. I grew up with low spec computers, which when i think about it was probably why i stumbled across Spiderweb games. I do prefer the original Averum-Nethergate style graphics, but that never stopped me playing through a few geneforge demos and enjoying them. However when Jeff finally got rid of that graphic type in A4 it seemed like the end of an era. I did grow up with them after all... Anyone agree? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk macdude22 Posted August 3, 2007 Share Posted August 3, 2007 I do find the original Avernum graphics to have a special grainy charm to them (grainy comes from running them on a 20" imac I suppose). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Drakefyre Posted August 4, 2007 Share Posted August 4, 2007 And I happen to prefer the old Exile graphics. But that fact won't keep me from playing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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