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.v1.0.1 doesn't fix the issue, have to assume killing guards pestering my slith to be the cause and it will make me lose money quest meaning a further penalty. No warning that such a penalty would be dealt to my characters. Bad manners Jeff

Need an exact link to updated Avernum RW, HumbleBumble makes no sense but I have a receipt # and will gladly trade it for .v1.0.1

Yes, I killed guards pestering my slith outside of town and am using .v 1.0.0 but I hid the bodies well. Does .v1.0.1 fix this issue?

Exactly the same on my end Earth Empires. Plus can't seem to lower vahnatai barrier on east side of castle. very frustrating. Only battle quest still left is Garzahd

This is an extremely important thread concerning one of THE most important quest items. I've spent months trying to finally complete this quest and I'm not ashamed to admit it. One more small concern is the default colors for this forum screen and posting access is VERY hard to see for some of us, especially those like me who are very nearly blind. A LOT more contrast would be appreciated. Thank you and Happy Folding.

Originally Posted By: Lilith do you also complain when you order a meal with five-alarm spice at a restaurant and it's too spicy for you Darn Tootin I complain and while it may serve as advertising for the small minority, it also warns the vast majority to keep their money in their pockets and look for other avenues to spend it. For Jeff: Stop putting saved game file in the windows partition, allow the saved game files to be placed directly in the folder that controls them i.e. D:\Avernum\A6\Saved or some such as that. No third party data should ever go to an active partition but also no third party data should ever be saved to a folder in which MS is constantly messing with. For those of you who really want a challenging game and produce scientific research at the same time, try www.fold.it. Great game, great enthusiasm, and great results leading to some recent news-worthy results. Come try it, you might be surprised at how addicting it becomes.

Before I invest in buying one of her charms, I'm wondering if their effect is only for the party member in whose pack it resides or if it affects all party members. I see the investment as to much money if the effect is only for one party member. And assuming I do buy, which one is recommended between AIM and EVASION?? Thank you for responses

In most cases, it is the server not permitting resumption of downloads, once the connection is lost and with modern downloaders such as my Orbit downloader there is not much they can do about it. They try, however the server tends to be obstinate. FTP ( as with CuteFTP ) is probably your only real alternative and praying a bit to, might not hurt any. I would like to know more about your system's configuration tho, as I might have other suggestions that could help the system stay online instead of losing connection. Your specific modem type, model #, would be necessary. If interested contact me at Yahoo ID ' hantoyo1 ' on Yahoo Messenger and please let me know why you are contacting me, else might not identify you properly.

This needs to be a sticky, real bad Sorry, just found that it was..

Thank you TTM, worked great and I finally completed the quest. Now it's off to see the Sorcerer's Ghost again, but I already know that I'm unlikely to be able to get past her for a while yet and I also know that the final battle in the Pit is yet to tough for me. I think I'm playing favorites with Shima and Jennel to much but I just like them more then the others, except possibly I might trade out Shima for Savlin, at least until I need a lockpicker again. Again, thanks for the help.

I've been working the forums for this issue for several days now and it appears I have no choice but to let others solve it for me. I guess I did a no-no when I left Venvella in front of the Accursed Widow thicket as I was having no luck in defeating the spider and defending Venvella, however I made sure that Venvella had not opened the thicket and was thus safe from harm. However after leveling up and completing other quests I came back to the same thicket only to find that Venvella has disappeared completely and the thicket is still closed, meaning he is safe somewhere but not in his camp. I have tested other quests to see if they behave in this manner and so far I've been able to come back to them successfully indicating that I should be able to do the same in this case. Assuming I cannot complete this quest in the normal fashion, I am wondering if there is a method to re-intiate the quest so that it can be completed else I will have a repeat of some of the problems I saw in AV-6. I'm working on torment so ever quest completion is extremely important to me and I would really rather not have to use the editor created by TTM. And yes, I have left the area, went back to Avadon, and then came back to this quest. Thanks in advance.

Originally Posted By: CRISIS on INFINITE SLARTIES No. (See other topics.) All the attack scarabs I tested give Int-based bonuses for Shamans & Sorceresses, but equal, Dex-based bonuses for Blademaster & Shadowwalkers. That, IMHO, is sort of the nail in the coffin for how much better BMs & SWs are, due to the power of Dexterity. It's not a gross difference, but it's a significant difference on Torment. So Crisis, to make a long story short, you're indicating that one or the other ( DEX or INT ) but not both are helpful for use with these cones of ELE? Specified topics would have been nice as I've been through most of the unspecified ones By the way Thanks for all the hard work you do testing. I know how difficult that can be sometimes.

Totally agree with RogueThunder. And I especially appreciate his eloquence as my scribblings would be much blunter and far less well received. At 26 billion years from end to end, the universe just isn't big enough to contain the one word I would use to describe A-6. I keep trying to find redeeming value in the game but after nearly two full plays, I can tell that Spiderweb games no longer makes the universe spin but instead makes for a very dull and boring imaginary environment. I plead with you Jeff, please fix this!!!!! Now for those who would disparage my remarks, please notice I have never in all my years of visiting the forum which just happens to be several years longer then my sign-in date, had anything bad to say about Jeff's games. But this game has been eating at me for to long now.

So you're saying that even if my GYM was 40 or even for the sake of discussion 100 ( I know that that 100 doesn't exist ), some of the monsters would still get a hit on me at each and every opportunity. That doesn't sound like a physical attack to me, but instead a area effect attack delivered physically to only one player kinda like the slith bridge guards east of Fort Monestary. But at least their attacks affected multiple players just like area attack should. In other words I can understand why GYM would not help with the slith bridge guards however when an attack is being delivered physically at only one player, then GYM should have a modifying effect at least occasionally. Just an opinion, but your experience is definitely much greater then mine.

QA and QS are still low, been concentrating on enabling skills, but this issue will be rectified soon because those two skills come in real handy and are very cheap at the moment. Randomizer, I didn't understand ' It's only good for going ahead in battle '. What are you trying to say? I had just got done reading Slarty's DW comments when I saw your post. Thanks. I may go above 6 on DW, but that will be later on I'm sure.

Just to answer part of your question, my battle disciplines are minimums of 16 at this point for ' all ' characters and I've been using a lot of Blade Shield for a long time in this game. Blademaster has be unlocked, else I would never have got 5 levels Reposte. Only reason I stopped at 5 was it was costing to much and I still need one more Dex to unlock Gym. I kinda believe that Gym depending on how much it costs me will be of some importance in my game.

I appreciate what you are saying Lilith and Randomizer, but an actual # that most would believe enough is more my question then is the fact that the value goes down as level increases. So is 6 to much or should I go so far as to leave it at trainer supplied 3. I don't know if I have ever seen Jeff give any of his trainers the ability to supply all levels needed for particular skill just by paying the trainer. That would be a new one on me. Thanks for all replies.

Have been working with trainer supplied 3 levels of DW for my fighters for some time now and so far have enjoyed most of the game. Now I have to consider doubling up my DW levels to 6 vice present 3. Easy enough at present 3 SP per level, but still, is it worth it? Also considering buying training levels for Priest/Mages when more credits available. Would like opinions as my Priest/Mages are also DW ready.

But the info in the Skill Effects topic does not contain the same info given by the first two replies to THIS topic and I, for one, really believe it should be included. And by TRAITS, I meant your Skill Effects topic, Crisis. Info in your list goes like this RIPOSTE (Cost: 5 -- No Trainers) +3% chance to riposte hand-to-hand attacks (10-cap) (Max: 50%) Unlocks after buying 6 Parry, 6 Blademaster So it only gives part of the needed info and the first two replies to this topic add the meat to the stew... Reb

At the moment I'm seeing Anatomy as pretty much useless then and would probably see better return for the credit by investing those SP into Priest skills for the warriors. During last game I saved my Mage/Priest several times with several times with Minor Heals from warriors and I'm seriously considering jumping the investment to at least ' Repel Spirit ' for the warriors as several times I have wished their added magical blows to a ghost,revenant, or lich.

I did some experiments the other day involving my FA and A levels in which I jumped my FA by two levels and also pushed A up by buying 3 levels at the trainer. In neither case did I see an increase in Health or SE ( Spell Energy ) received after the same exact combats. All my characters already have a FA of 6 w/o the use of artifacts and I am still in the Eastern Gallery, i.e. haven't traveled to Slith held property yet. Now I have always in the past viewed FA with a favorable disposition has it have been extremely useful in allowing me to continue my travels without having to run into town every 5 seconds so I'm wondering, is there a cap on FA and/or A depending on training levels or areas of the game in which a person might find himself? I'm having much more fun with this particular game did I ever did with previous game. All Nephil, all DW, Priest/Mage with exactly same skills and spells outside of Priest having TU of 12 and a slightly lower spellcraft which I will endeavor to fix later. So far I have accomplished many missions that I had to put off until much later in the previous game.

Is this why it is so difficult to find good info on searches, i.e. this behavior of discussing material that is not pertinent to the topic?? In other words the first two replies to my question directly deal with the topic and such information should have been much easier to find in earlier or related topics. Personally I would suggest that the info given me in first two replies be condensed in a concise but not to abbreviated manner for inclusion in the TRAITS topic. Just a thought, folks. Reb

Exactly!! Pit Crawlers and I also saw indications last nite that some ghosts and Revenants were less likely to hit.

Thank you both, it seems likely I will invest at least until it starts costing me 7 SP per skill level. I am also noticing that Dexterity with Gymnastics is doing me some good at least against some critters that used to eat me alive i.e. the weird chickens that bite with lightening. I know they're called something else, but can't remember what it is at the moment.

I'm at a point where I can start spending SP on Reposte but my research on the forum hasn't really given me any good indications of its value. So I'm asking folks, what do you think? I sure would hate spending good SP on something that didn't really do me much good.