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Originally Posted By: Randomizer There is some different text at the end for heavy canister use and a few places with different dialog. Dera Bridge has an extra option for high canister use, but in general Jeff got rid of those forced fights for using canisters. I miss those days when I got angry at those weaklings that didn't want to be their own nightlights. Originally Posted By: DokEnkephalin Some dialogs showed the symptoms of canister usage before I even used any, even before the reveal. Originally Posted By: Slartinator Slarterator No, those dialogs show the symptoms of being modified. Using canisters is one way to be modified, but you can be modified in other ways -- for example, by using a Geneforge. Something you are more or less told you have done at least once in the past. The GF4 reaction to excessive canister use has worse side effects than GF5. You could lose control and get in a fight when you didn't need or want to. I think this is one of the reasons the text says it was 'surprisingly easy' to control your anger and not attack an offensive NPC. You can up your canister use count by using SDF 35 6 12 and see the differences it makes in dialog and choices. Not to mention 'end game' outcome. (Somewhere I saw the scale of canister use side effects. >0, <5, <12.) Choices that the 'cheat code' (SDF 35 6 0) makes possible no matter how many canisters used. (That's why it's a cheat.) GF5 won't let you lose control like GF4 did. (Have you played GF4?) The above 'cheat' is for those wanting to remove canister use side effects immediately. Not using canisters at all will still result in you being recognized as an outsider with essense (shaping ability).

Originally Posted By: Darkdread First of all thank you! I was using the 1.0.0 version of the demo, but with my Win XP SP2 2006 laptop, I was one of those who had terribly slow perfomance turning the game unplayable. I downloaded the 1.0.1 test beta patch (or something like that ) and it solved my problems, the game started to run normally. Therefore, I'm a bit afraid of reinstalling version 1.0.0 I'd rather keep dying and being poor than not being able to play becuase it's too slow If you don't mind scripting: Go here for cheats For money and weapon.

In GF4 'Iffy' made an SDF code that zeroed the canister count so you didn't get any bad effects but kept the benefits. (Thanks again Iffy!) The idea works for GF5 as well though the SDF is different. I hadn't used enough canisters to have bad effects, but use does change some dialogs and choices. (You can test this by using SDF's 35 6 0 and 35 6 12 to see the contrast between dialogs and choices.) Sadly the 'forced fights' won't happen in GF5 as in GF4 so negative effects are now milder. SDF 35 6 0 Will definately zero out the counter. The fact that you've used the Geneforge, (and canisters), in a pre-amnesia event or in this game will allow anyone with enough 'essence' to recognize you've been shaped. Any use of 1 or more canisters can be recognized as well and effect your choices. So, it at least prevents that. Even if you never use a canister some of the dialogs still sound like you have but that's because you've been shaped from before the beginning of the game. The best way to having the best results of canister use is to use SDF 35 6 0 after each canister.

Just tested with 1.0.1's .exe and trainer didn't work on my machine either. As I said earlier I'm running the v1.0.0's .exe and it works. [if it ain't broke, don't fix it!] Did you actually download and install the demo (Geneforge5Demo.exe) and it had 1.0.1 incorporated in it ? If so, get the Geneforge 5.exe file with v1.0.0 executable and maybe the game and trainer will both work for you, as they have for me and most others. If I can help, let me know. I can create and PM you a link to the single file Geneforge 5.exe which is all you need for testing it.

Originally Posted By: The Mystic a) What Thuryl said about storing items. He got there first. There's an internal counter that keeps track of how many canisters you've used; each canister you use adds one to this total. There's no limit to the number of canisters you can use, but you start noticing dialogue changes at about six canisters. I 'Iffy' found a simple SDF code in GF4 that allowed you to zero out the total count for canister use while keeping all the benefits. Just a few key strokes and no script editing. Iffy's GF4 Canister Cure: open console (shiftD) and type SDF 100 4 0

Ouch! Be patient for a little while and I think all will be well. Pyro is still working on the trainer and ultimately the game version and his trainer will be better than ever.

I'm not 100% sure. v 1.0.0 works fine for me. I believe it should work fine with the 1.0.1 and 1.0.2 because the trainer works directly with memory locations. The fixes versions shouldn't have changed that as they targeted specific issues unrelated to the trainer. Just try it out. If any of it's target areas in memory changed it simply won't work. And if it doesn't Pyro could update his original after a specific version becomes official.

This is TOTALLY AWESOME! If this trainer was "quick and dirty" I'd like to see some of your more serious work! This is most of what you need for a "character editor" as well as elevating and locking some key abilities in a true "old school" trainer style. Great piece of work! Thank you! Used it once and made 7 fully buffed creations. Duped some items, got some coins, saved game, re-loaded without trainer and got to keep all the goodies!

This makes items in inventory much more visible. It will also make the "load saved game" files, "traffic signs" and "info" screens background grey but still readable. (They all use the same targa file as background.) If anyone finds this idea helpful, but wants text more vivid against the grey background, I think I can edit the text colors. www.freewebs.com/microphage/gf5visual.ZIP (Note: If you cycle back here without getting the file just copy and paste the link in a new browser window.) To make items in inventory much easier to see this G143.tga file has been modified to make the background 2 shades of grey instead solid black. Some item icons were nearly invisible because they were black, or close to black themselves. Saltweed, Swamp Herbs, Wiry Moss and belts for example. You could still mouse over them and see the text info. The file goes in the Geneforge 5\Geneforge 5Files\Graphics Core\ folder. As always, be sure to make backup before changing file. -=microphage=- Please feel free to add any cool tips and tricks you may have. .......And rename the subject line with the description. ............................-=microphage=-

This makes items in inventory much more visible. It will also make the "load saved game" files, "traffic signs" and "info" screens background grey but still readable. (They all use the same targa file as background.) If anyone finds this idea helpful, but wants text more vivid against the grey background, I think I can edit the text colors. www.freewebs.com/microphage/gf5visual.ZIP (Note: If you cycle back here without getting the file just copy and paste the link in a new browser window.) To make items in inventory much easier to see this G143.tga file has been modified to make the background 2 shades of grey instead solid black. Some item icons were nearly invisible because they were black, or close to black themselves. Saltweed, Swamp Herbs, Wiry Moss and belts for example. You could still mouse over them and see the text info. The file goes in the Geneforge 5\Geneforge 5 Files\Graphics Core\ folder. As always, be sure to make backup before changing file. -=microphage=- More cheats here

I really liked A5. I like all SpidWeb games. To make it less a "grind" play on an easier level. Even cheat...

Originally Posted By: Slarty There's nothing evil about all caps, obviously, but it is annoying. The fact is that the vast majority of people who read this forum, and especially the active topics list, do not care about the gold cheat. I don't mean to denigrate the cheat here, but to put it in proper perspective. By the standard you used to make its title so fancy, probably 1 out of 4 or 5 topics here would be in all caps. Drawing undue attention to something is generally considered annoying anywhere, internet or not. You are absolutely right. *bump* I toned down the title to the entire thread last night as well. Got excited about finding a way to do the gold cheat as I'd been looking for a way to do that for 2 years. Got carried away. Won't happen again. Note: Mushroom ale may account for some of the excitement. (No excuse, a reason.) (grin) Will try to check up on myself the next day! Just to be sure.

Originally Posted By: Hecate Can I *reduce* characters' stats? I'd like to fix a minor mistake or two that I made in spreading around the skillpoints, but the editor only seems to give me options to boost their skills. I don't like to really cheat in my first playthrough. I just want a takeback; touch & move is for chess Also, is there a list of things you can type in the developer's console? I know "editor" and I see that a lot like "SDF 75 5 1" have been mentioned here. Is "editor" the only one that doesn't require you to know the internal codes? Can you be more specific? Or just PM me with details of exactly what you did and what you wish you'd done. I think it may be possible. As for some SDF codes, they don't exist as such in many cases. I started using them to avoid editing for people who weren't comfortable with it, as well as easy reference for myself on subsequent replays. So, yes and no. There is a list of cheat codes already in game. They're mentioned in various places, including earlier posts in this thread. Many of the SDF's were made by reading the scripts and making one for a specific purpose. So, no list.

My bad. The blue jar was a level above. By the time I posted that I was into serious "brain burn" from playing about 18 hours. Sorry 'bout that! You're the 1st person to spot that. Good catch... It's fixed. Thanks.

NewMoneyCheat or new.money.cheat How's that? I think that being able to get 30000 coins instantly by a simple edit was a pretty "darn good reason." Sorry you didn't. It's fixed now. The original "new money cheat" in the 1st post in this thread was not as effective as a "pure money cheat" as this recent one is. I wanted to leave the first one that way to allow more choices. Example: you could still eat cake for 7 health points, or sell 4 pieces for 30000 as well as add other abilities to the giveasnack cheat. Also, I combined 2 posts into one by replying to a previous one and posting my new one at the same time. That was a reason for the CAPS as well. No boosting post counts for me... I wanted to make it so people who had already seen the original would realize the difference. I'm aware that all caps is considered "SHOUTING". Though it can be OK in some cases, your point has been made. I'm guessing that the CAPS use in the title of this thread is considered reasonable as it's been that way for several months. No complaints. I'll try to keep a balance between the two. I'm also guessing you've tried it as there were no complaints because it didn't work properly. So, pretty cool money cheat?

Originally Posted By: Phazer The "Fun With Fuller" in opening post is good, as far as it goes. I killed Fuller and made the whole town permanently hostile. The SDF code there didn't fix it. To solve this leave area, open cheat console, and type SDF 35 1 0 and go back. This should work for just Fuller also. Actually this was in a post near the bottom of the 1st page, mixed in with some other hostile fixes. But thanks! In trying to avoid multiposting I have lumped several things into 1 post several times. Your post makes it easier for someone to find it. **************************NEW MONEY CHEAT**************************** Edit item 284 (Cake) like so: begindefineitem 284; import = 250; it_name = "Cake"; it_graphic_template = 51; it_graphic_sheet = 1; it_which_icon_ground = 7; it_which_icon_inven = 7; it_variety = 14; it_charges = 1; it_value = 30000; begindefineitem 285; import = 250; it_name = "Kabob"; it_ability = 204;//restore original kabob abil it_value = 2;//restore original kabob val it_level = 2;//restore original kabob lev it_which_icon_ground = 10; it_which_icon_inven = 10; Now all you do is open cheat console (shiftD) type 'giveasnack' then hit 'enter' and you will have 30000 coins any time any where in game without having to sell cake or go anywhere.

Originally Posted By: Dikiyoba A character editor comes with the game, if you have a registered copy. You have to activate it from the main menu first. Once you're in the game, shift+D will bring up the cheat window and you type in "editor" to bring it up. If you don't have a registered copy, you will either have to start over, play on, or search for a fix in here somewhere. Dikiyoba. It's called "Genius Elixir" and it's near the bottom of the 2nd page. 10 skill points. There is also an edit/cheat for 'giveasnack' for cake that gives you 10 skill points. -=microphage=-

Seemed time to make this easier for "new to editing people" by adding some new items plus how to get it/them. As always, backup files before editing! -=microphage=- Note: These work for Mac or PC as the .txt scripts are cross compatible. ____________________________________________________________________________________ -Equipable Super Weapons: Hail Stone and Fire Bomb -Genius Elixir (gives 10 skill points) -Cake (giveasnack) cheat that gives you 10 skill points. NOTE: '//' in a line makes what follows ignored like 'rem' (remark) in Basic or DOS. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Add item 495 to av5itemschars.txt (Make sure item number is not in use. Just copy & paste.) begindefineitem 495; import = 0; it_name = "Hail Stone"; it_graphic_sheet = 2; it_which_icon_ground = 2; it_which_icon_inven = 4;//rock is 3 it_variety = 12;//equipable, flung it_ability = 17;//smite, ice bolt it_level = 900;//super powered! it_value = 0; it_weight = 1; it_charges = 1; it_graphic_coloradj = 1;//makes color icy blue it_extra_description = 22; Edit sign at Storgald's Herbs in z06blakchasdlg.txt (Again copy & paste.) begintalknode 6; state = -1; nextstate = -1; condition = 1; question = "special"; text1 = "The sign says:"; text2 = " Storgald's Herbs"; and add several lines as so: begintalknode 6; state = -1; nextstate = -1; condition = 1; question = "special"; text1 = "The sign says:"; text2 = " Storgald's Herbs"; text3 = " "; text4 = "Items added."; code = reward_give(495); reward_give(495); reward_give(495); reward_give(495); reward_give(495); reward_give(495); reward_give(495); reward_give(495); reward_give(495); reward_give(495); break; Save. Start game. Read sign. You will now have 10 of item in your main character's inventory. ============YOU CAN DO THIS FOR ANY ITEM with it's number...============= Type shiftD then backtostart then enter. Head North then west to find Storgald's Herbs and read sign. You can do the same for this new weapon "Fire Bomb": begindefineitem 496; import = 0; it_name = "Fire Bomb"; it_graphic_sheet = 2; it_which_icon_ground = 2; it_which_icon_inven = 4;//3 it_variety = 12;//equip // it_variety = 11;//no_equip it_ability = 16;//fire bolt it_level = 900; it_value = 0; it_weight = 1; it_charges = 1; it_graphic_coloradj = 256;//makes color fire orange it_extra_description = 22; Use reward_give(496); for this one. _________________________________________________________ begindefineitem 498; import = 220; it_name = "Genius Elixir"; it_ability = 223;//Skill Points it_value = 0; it_level = 9;//adds 10 skill points it_graphic_template = 51; it_graphic_sheet = 7; it_which_icon_ground = 3; it_which_icon_inven = 2; it_graphic_coloradj = 128;//brown Use reward_give(498); for this one. ___________________________________________________________________ Quick script editing. Open Avernum 5/data/scripts folder. Backup av5itemschars.txt somewhere safe. Open av5itemschars.txt in /scripts folder. Find items 284 & 285 and copy and paste these over the existing ones. Save. Play. Hit shift D and type giveasnack hit enter. Your main character now has a piece of cake. Pass to any characters inventory and they can get cake worth 30000 (sells for 7500) or use for 10 skill points. Use/eat for 10 skill points anywhere, anytime in game. Train character any time! begindefineitem 284; import = 250; it_name = "Cake"; it_ability = 223;//Gives Skill Points it_level = 9;//adds 10 skill points it_graphic_template = 51; it_graphic_sheet = 1; it_which_icon_ground = 7; it_which_icon_inven = 7; it_value = 30000; begindefineitem 285; it_name = "Kabob"; it_ability = 204;//restore original kabob abil it_value = 2;//restore original kabob val it_level = 2;//restore original kabob lev it_which_icon_ground = 10; it_which_icon_inven = 10; Just hit shiftD and type giveasnack then enter key to receive piece of cake.

OK. Your main reason for taking the test was to kill Kherrr. (Though you can take test without killing him 1st.) You probably did that. If you went back to quest giver you would have completed the quest. (I think it's in the crystal works in Shankers Tower, nephil named Sarramor.) It may have come from a Job Board too. Seems like you needed some other quest completed before being able to finish this one. The reason you want back in is to get the ceremonial items. They aren't very good weapons/armor as such, there are better. They are valuable to sell. But I understand the added challenge of trying to get away with them. All you can do is stash them somewhere or sell them because you will lose them anywhere in the vicinity of the test area even if you get away far enough to resurrect the player carrying them. You will find yourself in the area again later and if you are carrying them around, POOF! Bye, bye items. Use the item numbers 73 317 and 360 to get them from the sign at Storgalds Herbs as described in the earlier posts in this thread. Just remember to make backups of the text files you change. All you will be doing is editing a text file. Not coding or programming per se. If you still have trouble, PM me. I'm replaying the game and am about 2/3rds done. You are still fairly early in the game. It may be worth a restart to you. The number of data flags would take hours to find and make SDF's and test them. I could tell you how to reset the quest flag but it's more than a bit chancy and unpredictable results could occur. I actually went back to do this quest on a replay of the game. I'd say just save the "keep the ceremonial items" trick for a replay. I did. -=microphage=-

Originally Posted By: Iffy In this game, and in others too, I do some strange things. I only use the wisdom crystals for mages/priests and the knowledge brews for warriors/archers. I also like to hoard certain items. I will sell common things, but I will keep rare/one time only things. I also have problems with getting myself to buy things in the game. I like to hoard the gold, too. Does anyone else have weird habits in this game and/or in others? I still collect flour sacks, paper and iron. I like to arrange my inventories so all same items are neatly grouped together. Even rearrange each time I get some more. I allocate specific items to certain characters. I use my lead character to have all crystals, ingredients and such found in caches so that storage for stackables is pretty much automatic. I also edit scripts to make unsellable items sellable. (Anything with a value of 13 or more thats stackable is sellable, 13 or more for single items as well.) And I write topics that encourage workarounds or even cheats. I even refer back to them on replays. I wait impatiently for the next Spidweb release. (Hmmm, maybe that's not so strange.) -=microphage=-

Try SDF 14 3 0 If that doesn't do it you can get the items by script editing as described above (reward_give) with these item numbers: 73 317 360

Good question. I like thw switches. The walls have the same pattern everywhere and you have to move your cursor to highlight a switch. Also there are instances of switches being hidden. There was also a feature that you could type "u"sable items and they'd be alpha letter highlighting! Moving our cursor over switchlike shapes is more naturally challenging than hitting every surface like you had OCD. I remember how cool some of the earlier games seemed at the time... But I find it difficult to get the same enjoyment after playing the new ones when I fool around with the old ones. Looking forward to A6 and the re-writing of A1-3 with all the cool stuff that's possible now. -=microphage=-

Originally Posted By: Dikiyoba This is a workaround for people with bad eyes and underpowered parties. Anyway, I never saw the sparkles while fighting Moref's servants. Since I didn't have the ability or inclination to brute-force my way through the fight, I decided to make the sparkles more obvious. In the file z131tranq, find "place_particle_num(2964 + r1,15,6,1);" and replace it with "place_particle_num(2964 + r1,15,13,1);". Now the sparkles are permanent. The downside is the sparkle doesn't go away after the shade jumps, but it shouldn't be too difficult to kill one servant a round. Dikiyoba. Excellent! Good one for us old folks... -=microphage=- Originally Posted By: Earth2025 Is there way to get another Anama Scrolls since I gave those to Gladwell already since walkthrough didn't mention early enough that those are needed elsewhere too? OK, not sure exactly what you're needing. Do you want an SDF code to make Anama friendly again? However, the fact you took them made them hostile whether you gave them to Gladwell or not. Do you have the geas? Or am I thinking of another quest with stealing someones secrets and Sorengard making copies and giving the originals back??? Anyone? If you just want to have another set I may be able to find the special item code but you would need to do some basic script editing. (copy/paste) Just a bit gamed out right now. +[ughhhh brain hurt, brain HURT...]+ ****A Side Note: The Forums are looking and performing GREAT!***

Quote: Originally written by Tcheedchee: Thanks Microphage for your (exhausting - just missing the right word here at the moment) answer. >>==>I hope the word is "exhaustive"! The reason for my question was aimed at getting a better picture. Which I have now, thanks. >>==>You're welcome. Also, I havn't played through any type of computer-game yet, without having to get some hints from somewhere, and I do not like the mentioned (intense) frustration, when stuck without any idea how to solve the problem as well. Whenever that moment occurs, I get the feeling that possibly I'm the victim of a bug. I really hate that. >>==>I'm confident that by now with both Mac & PC releases out awhile that A5 is very clean. But on the other hand, there is also always this nagging feeling of 'cheating', when the solution was easier to find, than I thought and similar cases. Then I always feel a bit put off about having asked for help too early. >>==>I hate that! Therefore my reason for asking about the sense of cheating was to get a better idea, what purpose it might serve. >>==>To bail you out if you don't want to lose days of play. And, for replayability. And also out of curiosity, because in the cow-thread by Walter there are so many hints at some fun, one gets out of cheating. >>==>It is fun as long as you stay within limits you are comfortable with. I mainly use it to speed up early parts of replays. And to quickly get to certain points in game to help someone out. Also it's fun sometimes to go crazy and blaze through the game in a day or two, invincible, one hit kills, etc. So however one likes to play. Thank you for your statement and enjoy furthermore! Thanks, I intend to. Anyone got any amazing finds to share here? . EDIT: Typos.

Quote: Originally written by Azuma Velius: I think you should put that this is unofficial and is not supported by the company. Just a thought. Or was it already posted somewhere around here? I've done so many times, however I took your advice and did that in the above post. Good to see you on this thread again! Please realize I am not pointing fingers or naming names. Most of the people who play at Torment are just having fun, as am I on Easy. That's why the games have a broad spectrum of difficulty and shift-D. Sells more games too!