Mechalibur

I also did mixed shaping on torment (as a shaper and as a guardian) since I wanted to test balance for as many creations as possible. It's absolutely doable, and there are some advantages to having more creation types available even if it's not as good as sticking to one. I tend not to optimize my character very much - the game just gives you a lot of tools to get past difficult encounters.

Magic skill upgrades their ranged attack since that does magic damage.

Look, she's only grudgingly following you due to an ornk-racing incident, she's not gonna follow you all the way outside Drypeak territory 😛

2 hours ago, Slarti said:

Are you sure Rhakkus qualifies?  I see Syros and Akkat in the scripts but not him.

It's in gf2auxdialogue.txt (Rhakkus can show up in 2 different parts in Benerii-Uss, so it's not in the normal location files).

Yeah, control is based on the number of creations you have, so the increase of party size isn't being accounted for.

It makes you start seeing ghosts.

They're set levels, I'm pretty sure. They aren't really meant to replace creations.

1 minute ago, alhoon said:

I.e. if I get Zora (who also has a very beautiful art)

Random aside - does anyone else think her character art is AI-generated? One of her legs is at a weird angle, there's a bizarre texture where she has a jumble of belts that intersect, and her sword doesn't appear to have a hilt - she's just holding the blade.

Takers require you to kill one leader to join them. It can be Zakary, but Pinner and Barzahl also work. It's basically just a loyalty test that you aren't event expected to succeed at. Pretty sure it was the same in the original.

No, there's no way to sabotage the mines. There isn't really even much reason to - the people actually doing the mining are the commons (you can see the miners by the mine entrance early in the game), so it's not really a pro-servile move to disrupt them. Drypeak also isn't an economic powerhouse that threatens the Awakened and even the Takers are fine with you completely ignoring Drypeak since they're basically a non-issue. Only Barzahl really wants you to take out Zakary and the loyalists.

Loaded a file where I just joined the Barzites. Looks like it's 3 times.

Yeah, Agents still want to have points in shaping, ideally (and focused in a single shaping school due to the point cost). You just wouldn't want to put every point in shaping.

Did you kill the named NPCs mentioned earlier? If you did, you should have gotten a line of text after killing them mentioning your helix ring absorbed the energy. There's still a second step you need to take however - you need to take it to an enchanted anvil (like the one in Drypeak Warrens), and combine it with Mandrake Tincture and Infernal Essence.

For what it's worth, there's a pretty big gulf between viable and optimal. Stuff like cryoas tend to come up short in comparison to other options you can have at your disposal (in the cryoa's case you're generally better off making more fyoras), but they're still perfectly adequate for beating the game, even on torment. And if you're not playing on torment, I'd say just go for what looks fun. As long as you don't do anything ridiculous like exclusively invest in melee/missile skills on a shaper, you should be able to clear the game just fine.

56 minutes ago, Hyperion703 said:

Apologies if this was already addressed, but what does the Rep +/- mean exactly? For example: 

 

Reputation

- Zakary +/-3

 

As always, I appreciate the walkthrough. You're a beast, Randomizer.

Your servile/shaper reputation. High means you agree with shaper ideals, low means you don't (and generally think serviles should be free). Affects your ability to join factions and some other stuff.

For what's it worth, you don't really need to hold on to them. He directs you to locations that have 10+ potted plants, and most of the tall potted plants aren't even accessible until you reach the second part of his quest (it adds a new dialogue option that opens them up)

Oh that's actually pretty significant since the gloves of spell mastery are excellent. Then again, joining the Takers before you reach Fort Muck seems pretty unlikely.

Murdering Pinner is never required, although that's one of the ways to complete the Taker's "Kill a Leader" entry quest.

I don't think you can rejoin any factions.

A lot of that guide doesn't really work for Infestation any more. Sabotaging a facility will now turn that faction's main city hostile. A lot of the rewards are different now too (letting the Eye sap your stats I think gives a pretty mediocre cloak)

If you have a barzite badge, you can bypass the fight even with canister usage, I believe.

Cockatrice no longer has the control penalty it did in Mutagen. It also has a higher base level and base hp. It's not amazing, still, but I think it's perfectly fine to use, especially if you got all 6 levels in the training.

It might be an oversight that anyone can teach them. You get 4 canisters of Cockatrice, which is 2 more than most creations have, so it's kind of weird you can get 2 levels of training on top of it. Although Stalkthorns also have 4 canisters despite plenty of people teaching them, so maybe not!

26 minutes ago, alhoon said:

The Barzites being good for power gamers... no, I can't say it is a huge plot twist. 

The "Servants" (man I hate that name...) that proudly bend to kiss the feet of Shapers being bootlickers pushovers... again, not surprising. 

The Awakened should be less rewarding than the Takers though; the Takers are also about power. 

Have to agree with you. It's kind of disappointing how little power you're actually getting from the Takers. You have to go through so many hoops to even get training in the first place, when the Awakened offer the same training right away. It guess it makes sense from a story perspective, since Tuldaric is the one who invented augmentation and the other faction require his research before offering the training (although Phariton doesn't seem to require you be augmented, which is interesting).

I guess the biggest difference is the canisters they offer you (either in Benerii-Uss or behind Syros) can be obtained through violent means unlike the Barzite canisters which require you to do Barzite quests. The power gaming option all comes down to Barzahl's superior storage methods 😄

I feel like thematically, a person willing to summon a drakon should be perfectly willing to consume canisters 😄

5 is the first warning, 10 is the second.