Articulate Vlish Cylon Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 I am just starting out. What is the best class and faction to play? Also, are there any tips I really should know so that I won't be kicking myself for doing something halfway through the game? (e.g. I read that most people don't train combat skills until after the trainer at the 1st camp so I started over. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Men are from Slars Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 The combat skills are really not a big deal -- you only save a few points over those in classes that actually care about combat. And the trainer isn't available until halfway through the game. So they are only worth fussing over if you are playing on Torment and really want to optimize every last point. You will however want to hold off training Spellcraft, as a Spellcraft trainer shows up very early. The Warrior and Shock Trooper are universally acknowledged to be sub-optimal classes... though the difference is not huge. The Lifecrafter is best with creations due to higher essence and will have the most raw offensive power. The Servile is the best fighter and potentially the most versatile and survivable. The Infiltrator is extremely similar to the Servile -- slightly less survivable, but with slightly more essence -- with most seeming to feel the Servile and Lifecrafter are preferable. As far as sects go, you are somewhat better off if you pick one side and stick with it. The Shapers have somewhat better rewards, though there are exceptions. The link in my sig and in the forum header will have more detailed information about that. Otherwise, there aren't any major surprises / realizations that you should have done X 20 hours of playing ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Schrodinger Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 I'd agree that you're best off sticking with one side, however, there's definitely more reward for helping the shapers. One quest in specific is pretty much necessary to keep several areas open- repair Moseh. I find myself repairing Moseh, then killing Shaftoe and Eliza for their stuff and to keep on the good side of the rebels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Men are from Slars Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 Repairing Moseh is 100% unnecessary to keep any areas open whatsoever. It's a myth. Even if you kill Moseh, reporting to Alwan will still earn you the pass that you need to get into the Shaper areas in the Fens. The problem is that many people kill Moseh, then assume there is no reason to report back to Alwan. The game really does reward indulging in diplomacy with the side you aren't helping. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Nioca Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 Quote: Originally written by Hashi the Drug-Sniffing Canine:You will however want to hold off training Spellcraft, as a Spellcraft trainer shows up very early. Where? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt I_am_a_Minotaur Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 In the area with the battle alphas and drayk, the person inside the building will train you in spellcraft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody Retlaw May Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 You have to have enough leadership to convince him though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Randomizer Posted February 14, 2007 Share Posted February 14, 2007 You only need leadership of 6 so it's not hard. You should read the reputation and reward information to decide which side to mostly help. There are certain items that benefit certain classes so that may help make up your mind. An infiltrator. lifecrafter, and servile using spells will want the skien of wisdom from bringing the kiln ruby to the Shapers and the spellcasters want the items to raise battle magic spells. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unflappable Drayk ĐªгŦĦ Єяŋϊε Posted February 14, 2007 Share Posted February 14, 2007 his name is burkes and you can betray him to the shaper camp so get the spellcraft first Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Schrodinger Posted February 14, 2007 Share Posted February 14, 2007 Quote: Originally written by Hashi the Drug-Sniffing Canine:Repairing Moseh is 100% unnecessary to keep any areas open whatsoever. It's a myth. Even if you kill Moseh, reporting to Alwan will still earn you the pass that you need to get into the Shaper areas in the Fens. The problem is that many people kill Moseh, then assume there is no reason to report back to Alwan. The game really does reward indulging in diplomacy with the side you aren't helping. OK, true enough. I still find helping Moseh and killing the other two shapers the easiest way to ensure that chapters 3 and 4 remain open. You can turn over Monarch's papers to the rebels and so long as you've helped Moseh, can explore Burwood without fear of the infiltrators. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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