Tenderfoot Thahd Fefner Posted August 18, 2004 Share Posted August 18, 2004 What monsters are on your list? (Avernum 3) iv got Drake lord , Ur-Balisk , vampire and empire dervish . Im considering making a new game only because im trying to get Doom guard as a summon creature, im also attempting to get slime lord....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Fort Posted August 18, 2004 Share Posted August 18, 2004 First of all, you picked an absolutely great and traditional topic to make your first post on. Second of all, you can't have Doomguards because they a) have a special class and split. As for me, I love Aranea Lords and different Golems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyshakk Koan xxo Posted August 18, 2004 Share Posted August 18, 2004 I hardly ever use Capture Soul and Simulacrum, but on the one or two times I did, I had two Ur-Basilisks, A Dark Wyrm, and some kind of spellcaster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seasoned Roamer ditech2 Posted August 18, 2004 Share Posted August 18, 2004 Back in the Exile 3 days, I did h** e*** once to be able to summon a doom gaurd. Sadly I think I accidentally hit one and they just kept on popping up. Soon, I not only was surrounded by a legion of doom gaurds, but I couldn't tell which was hostile and which wasn't. So, I'd assume not allowing people to capture doom guards was for good reason. What did happen after that unfortunate incident? My computer took forever to do anything and I ended up restarting my computer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Alorael at Large Posted August 19, 2004 Share Posted August 19, 2004 I keep Ur-Basilisks, Null Bugs, and Gazers, but I hardly ever summon either one. They're not necessary. Creatures that are just fighters or casters, not utility creatures, are even more useless. They just steal experience when they kill things. —Alorael, who doesn't think that guessing which doomguards are hostile and which are copies of the contraband summoning is an important question. Part of the problem is that copies of the creature are set to the default setting, which means the duplicates are all hostile to your party. Only the original will be on your side, and its propensity towards creating an army of enemies hardly makes it a great help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chittering Clawbug vahnatai_hell_fyre Posted August 19, 2004 Share Posted August 19, 2004 I've got -Drake Lord -found him in Southern Valorim(is that spelled right?) -Agumented Giant -Erikas's Tower -Orge Mage -From a bunch of them' and sliths near Erika's Tower -Ur Basilisk -The Anama temple -Glydden -Warrior Priest from Delis I had the Alien Slime, not Slime Lord, but I got rid of it hwen I got the giant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenderfoot Thahd Fefner Posted August 19, 2004 Author Share Posted August 19, 2004 Absouletly sweet ^ ^ . I dont do any of quest ussualy. i just started and almost finished with the slime one because im tryin to get Alien slime (alien lord thing).Ussually i just go around killing towns and summoning foul rats to kill the kittens for me thnx for replying . Fefner 0 Loathed , HP:3088 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seasoned Roamer ditech2 Posted August 19, 2004 Share Posted August 19, 2004 Quote: -Alorael, who doesn't think that guessing which doomguards are hostile and which are copies of the contraband summoning is an important question. Part of the problem is that copies of the creature are set to the default setting, which means the duplicates are all hostile to your party. Only the original will be on your side, and its propensity towards creating an army of enemies hardly makes it a great help. Gee... I never knew that. Could be why they kind of... um... turned against me all of a sudden. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Kelandon Posted August 19, 2004 Share Posted August 19, 2004 In the Trilogy, I pretty much never used these spells, although they are indispensable in Blades. I think I had a Dervish, a Wizard, and possibly a Gazer or Mung Demon at some point or another. I never found them to be worthwhile to Simulacrum back up, though; on the rare occasions when I felt the need to summon something, I could always use Arcane Summon instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unflappable Drayk Toenail Returns Posted August 20, 2004 Share Posted August 20, 2004 I use Ur-Basilisk and Mutant Giant. I rarely use them though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chittering Clawbug Backwards impaired. Posted August 21, 2004 Share Posted August 21, 2004 I remember i used to have a wizard, vampire and ur-basilisk, i think. Didn't use it much but that just makes it more exciting when you do use it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyshakk Koan Chaosfox Posted August 21, 2004 Share Posted August 21, 2004 I'd say I have a good batch of simulacrums in my Torment file. Power Crystal, Drake Lord, Dark Wyrm, and a Haakai. In torment these come in handy quite a bit for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyshakk Koan Vicheron Posted August 21, 2004 Share Posted August 21, 2004 Quote: Originally written by ditech2:Back in the Exile 3 days, I did h** e*** once to be able to summon a doom gaurd. Sadly I think I accidentally hit one and they just kept on popping up. Soon, I not only was surrounded by a legion of doom gaurds, but I couldn't tell which was hostile and which wasn't. So, I'd assume not allowing people to capture doom guards was for good reason. What did happen after that unfortunate incident? My computer took forever to do anything and I ended up restarting my computer. Doomguards are hostile by default so every Doomguard split from the one you summoned should have been hostile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curious Artila Jethro Mithrandier Posted August 24, 2004 Share Posted August 24, 2004 I use an Order Mage and an Emperial Archer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk Isaac Posted August 24, 2004 Share Posted August 24, 2004 In Avernum, unlike Exile, splitting Doomguards remain on the side that the original was on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curious Artila Homey Maigre Posted August 25, 2004 Share Posted August 25, 2004 An Ur-Basilisk was the only creature I ever thought of as necessary, only because they dispose of Doom-Guards rather neatly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt Rent-an-Ihrno Posted August 25, 2004 Share Posted August 25, 2004 for real battle i only use dark wyrm. the rest i use for fun only, like alien slime or something. im wondering if you can capture dogs and the like..? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curious Artila Sasuke Posted August 26, 2004 Share Posted August 26, 2004 Well, back in Exile simulclarum was actually useful. In Avernum, it just got worse and worse. By the time you get to Avernum 3, I personally thought the spell was next to useless. Theres no point summoning weak creatures with this spell, and strong creatures not only require large chunks of SP, they dont last long (I havnt played A3 in a long time, but IIRC I stopped using Simulclarum after I realised the creatures I summoned tended to dissappear after 3 rounds. Actually, that was probably A2.), and they have practically no real effect on a given battle (You can just slaughter everything yourself). Plus, unlike Exile, you cant capture the soul of particularly cool creatures (eg dragons), not to mention that the spell is a hostile one, which notches its usefullness down yet another level. Having said that, I have just checked my save file and I had: Gazer Dark Wyrm Hakaai Efreet IIRC I practically never used them, but it seems plenty of other people use them to great effect. Whatever floats your boat I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Goldengirl Posted September 10, 2004 Share Posted September 10, 2004 I haven't gotten far yet but my soul is the cool kind of demon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Rowen Posted September 11, 2004 Share Posted September 11, 2004 In my A2 game I have the evil wizard Grazerl(I have no idea how to spell his name). It's cool becouse I use him to fight himself. Other then that I never use the spell. Yes Sasuke, the spell seemed not to be needed in A3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenderfoot Thahd The Wanderer Posted September 12, 2004 Share Posted September 12, 2004 yeah I agree not the most useful spell, but I reckon its best use is pitting monsters of your choice against each other. How else could you answer the age old question who would win in a fight between a cat and a dog, or how long a child would last against a drake lord. By the way I think my list was guard darkwurm crystal soul kitten Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unflappable Drayk Toenail Returns Posted September 12, 2004 Share Posted September 12, 2004 I rarely use them but my list is Ur-Basilisk Basilisk Guard Wizard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Archmagus Micael Posted September 12, 2004 Share Posted September 12, 2004 I didn't have Capture Soul in my copy of Avernum, only Simulacrum. It summoned whatever I targeted. Is that just me, or what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Articulate Vlish Armada Posted September 12, 2004 Share Posted September 12, 2004 The only time I remember using the capture soul and simulacrum spell was right after I got them in A3, on that spiny worm you can find in the same Vahatni settlement. It was fun to just summon it against weak creatures if i got bored, but i never bothered to capture any strong or usefull monsters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Archmagus Micael Posted September 12, 2004 Share Posted September 12, 2004 Hang on - WAIT! Maybe I'm getting BoA and A3 mixed up. Yeah, I did have it in A3, but not in BoA! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seasoned Roamer Gunshy Posted September 13, 2004 Share Posted September 13, 2004 I got Capture Soul and Simulacrum in Ghikra, when I was given the Soul Crystal as a reward. My Mage is Level 9 (this is not my main game, but an unregistered one on another computer), but the two spells are greyed out - even in combat. I thought I'd capture the Alien Slime, but had to kill it instead. What have I missed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curious Artila Corpus Stalker Posted September 29, 2004 Share Posted September 29, 2004 Just for fun i captured some cows in the crystal and i used my 2 mages to keep summoning them in a fight i had against some giant lizards. Eventually i had about 20 cows on my side and the lizards were eventually overpowered. Mwahahaha... fear my cow army!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt Rent-an-Ihrno Posted September 29, 2004 Share Posted September 29, 2004 ever heard about a "dead topic-raiser"? well, you have just become one. i think that cow-thingy you did there was quite cool, but anyway, dont post into a thread thats more than a week old. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seasoned Roamer Gunshy Posted September 29, 2004 Share Posted September 29, 2004 Up yours, Ferox! I thought Corpus Stalker made an amusing post and on-topic. Why start a new thread, just to keep you happy? Are you paying for bandwidth? May I suggest you read Corpus Stalker's tagline. The one about 'diplomacy'... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Kelandon Posted September 29, 2004 Share Posted September 29, 2004 Thread necromancy is only bad if the necromancer has nothing new to add to a topic. In this case, I'm pretty sure it was fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fledgling Fyora the SERVILES will rebel Posted September 29, 2004 Share Posted September 29, 2004 u never learn a spine beast may seem weak to u but it paralyzes and does great damage dung demon for magic users ur-basilsk and the massive blue demon in tower of magi and magic circles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt Rent-an-Ihrno Posted September 29, 2004 Share Posted September 29, 2004 well thats new tunes. last couple of times i witnessed a similar action, all hell broke out. however. the blue demon is a haakai. the one in the tom is (an?) adze-haakai, if i remember correctly. in case you mean the mung demon, i think its... well i dont know. im not a fan of it. dont ask me why. @gunshy: watch your tongue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk Albus Dumbledore Posted September 30, 2004 Share Posted September 30, 2004 I've found a cheat site describing the space in the saved game where the captured monsters are stored, and fiddled around with monsters a little... With 9 Erikas, 4 Ur-Basilisk and a Drake Lord, the game can get rather fun for a short time. Just one advice: Never try it with Doomguards. When they split, the copy is set to default - ie. hostile. I summoned five of them, one of them split and they proceeded to take each other (and my party) apart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyshakk Koan My Quasimodo Posted September 30, 2004 Share Posted September 30, 2004 I was disappointed by the Dark Wyrms I summoned; they just stood there and didn't do anything. If they had fought my enemies as hard as they fought me they'd be great. The Mung Demon worked fairly well. I'd just as soon rely on the Arcane Summon spell and let whatever comes up work for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seasoned Roamer Gunshy Posted September 30, 2004 Share Posted September 30, 2004 I apologise for using profanity. I forgot there were so many children using this board. Mea culpa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chittering Clawbug Dado Posted September 30, 2004 Share Posted September 30, 2004 The best monster i put on the crystal was a ogre mage, a giant slug, a nephil archer and a townswomen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Goldengirl Posted October 9, 2004 Share Posted October 9, 2004 My A3 list is Drake,Ice Drake,Demon, and Cave Giant. I havn't had them long, but there pretty powerful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt Rent-an-Ihrno Posted October 10, 2004 Share Posted October 10, 2004 now i remember something. back when i was playing the a3 demo (e3 too?), i used to capture that drake lord or whatever hes called whos hiding in a secret lava tunnel in the mountains in sw valorim. i think the entrance was on the north side, a bit east of the mines. hes quite a killer though and a nice guy. he will ask you for aid twice, i think. if you do so, youll get a reward, but i dont remember what kind of reward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Rowen Posted October 10, 2004 Share Posted October 10, 2004 If you help him the Drake Lord gives you a plate armor and tells you to go away. If you kill him you find a plate armor in his lair. The plate armor was rusted or something like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt Rent-an-Ihrno Posted October 11, 2004 Share Posted October 11, 2004 yeah that mustve been it. hes a nice fellow like all dragons and dragonlike thingys (imo), but in this case it is simply better to rip his lizard heart out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fledgling Fyora Nelo Angelo, The Great Squirrel God Posted October 13, 2004 Share Posted October 13, 2004 To my recallation I had: Drake lord, Empire Dervish, Vampire, and Alien Slime. Anyone else killed Erika yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Archmagus Micael Posted October 13, 2004 Share Posted October 13, 2004 Quote: Originally written by Nelo Angelo, The Great Squirrel God:To my recallation I had: Drake lord, Empire Dervish, Vampire, and Alien Slime. Anyone else killed Erika yet? Who the HELL would want to kill erika?!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Lilith Posted October 13, 2004 Share Posted October 13, 2004 That guy, apparently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Kelandon Posted October 13, 2004 Share Posted October 13, 2004 Micael, grow up. Hrm. Would it be possible to cast Capture Soul on Erika and be able to produce a copy at will? Judging from BoA, she's an independent monster type. She also might not be capturable, judging from BoA, but it's a thought. I mean, without hacking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Rowen Posted October 13, 2004 Share Posted October 13, 2004 Quote: Originally written by Nelo Angelo, The Great Squirrel God:Anyone else killed Erika yet? Yuppers. => EDIT:To Kel: I just tryed to get Erika and I couldn't. Without haking that is. Just as a not to everyone, DON'T USE CLOUD OF BLADES ON DOOMGUARDS!!!! I did this and befor I knew it, the room was full of doomguards and they were poring in from outside the roome too. Story made short, I died. I did all this in A3 just so you know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Rowen Posted October 13, 2004 Share Posted October 13, 2004 Oh Snap, I know wait for the wrath of the gods for my double post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Rowen Posted October 13, 2004 Share Posted October 13, 2004 Crap, my computer is messed up. Please forgive me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenderfoot Thahd Jill Posted November 16, 2004 Share Posted November 16, 2004 Quote: Originally written by Ferox:ever heard about a "dead topic-raiser"? well, you have just become one. i think that cow-thingy you did there was quite cool, but anyway, dont post into a thread thats more than a week old. ... er, why not? i run a forum of my own, and from a moderating and reading standpoint i far prefer it if someone digs up an old topic rather than just posting a new one repeating what's already been discussed. it shows they've made an effort to find the answers rather than just begging for someone to tell them the answer without even bothering to look, for one thing. i'll even merge them together if two threads with the same topic are posted. less redundancy, less clutter, all the answers in one tidy place... not everyone will have something to add to a topic all at the SAME EXACT TIME, after all. to stay on topic, my list and a question. in Avernum 3 I am not done yet, but currently have: -Demon -Naga -Ice Drake - and a lame wraith which i captured to test it out... and i don't find it useless. sure, in your average random encounter, it is, but not when you are facing a great number of foes, like when you drop the barrier between the giants and Trogo's, or whatever... then again, i can't cast arcane summon yet, so... my question is, I am facing a Dark Wyrm, and i would like to capture it. i want it to replace the wraith, cus it's useless. but it seems to want to overwrite everything BUT that one >.< is there any trick to getting it to overwrite a specific slot, or is it random, or what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Kelandon Posted November 16, 2004 Share Posted November 16, 2004 The general idea, Jill, is that most resurrected topics look like this . That is, someone pointlessly revives a topic while adding nothing new and creates more spam on these already too-taxed boards. Reviving a topic when you have something genuinely new and relevant to add is fine. It's just that most people don't do that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seasoned Roamer Gunshy Posted November 18, 2004 Share Posted November 18, 2004 Dear Pink and Pretty Lord, Duly noted, but an answer to Jill's question about overwriting slots in the Simulacrum would be mightily appreciated. (Geez, I just took an off-topic whipping in Gebra. Those Mad Monks are - well, mad! Sorry, back to the topic.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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