Hatchling Cockatrice Mea Tulpa Posted April 22, 2016 Share Posted April 22, 2016 The simplest and strangest of the five sets of endings. There are five major endings, one for each faction. There are no branches whatsoever. A few mentions can be slightly different depending on who's alive (Litalia, Greta, and Mehken), and whether or not you're a servile. The PC's fate appears to be the same in four of the endings. It is mildly worse in Taygen's. Nothing else affects your fate, not how many canisters you used, not your actions or reputation, nothing. What's even stranger, though, is that the final resolution of the war is basically identical in the other four endings, and it's not even that different in Taygen's. Major Ending 1: Astoria After Gazaki-Uss is assaulted, Astoria negotiates peace with the human and servile rebels, who form a new nation in the east. The Trakovite philosophy is adopted in some regions. Shaper laws are reinstated and the Geneforges are destroyed. Minor Variation: If you killed Greta, Rawal gets kicked off the council and Akhari Blaze leads the rebels. If you didn't, she leads the rebels while Rawal becomes High Councillor. Major Ending 2: Alwan After Gazaki-Uss is assaulted, Astoria negotiates peace with the human and servile rebels, who are confined to the Ashen Isles. The Trakovites are destroyed. Shaper laws are reinstated and the Geneforges are destroyed. Major Ending 3: Taygen After Gazaki-Uss is assaulted, Taygen releases the Purity Agent. Creations are destroyed. The war is over. Taygen is ejected from the council, Alwan takes over, and the Trakovites are destroyed. Shaper laws are reinstated and the Geneforges are destroyed. Major Ending 4: Litalia After Gazaki-Uss is assaulted, Astoria negotiates peace with the human and servile rebels, who form a new nation in the east. The Trakovite philosophy is partly incorporated by the Shapers. Shaper laws are reinstated and the Geneforges are destroyed. Major Ending 5: Ghaldring After the Council Hall is assaulted, Ghaldring goes on a tour of destruction with the drakons, who utterly defeat the Shapers but suffer some casualties. The Trakovites are also hunted. The human and servile rebels then lead a short, one-sentence long rebellion against the drakons. Everyone comes together to negotiate a peace, and the rebels form a new nation while the Shapers are confined to the coastal provinces. Shaping laws are reinstated and the Geneforges are destroyed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyshakk Koan Alberich Posted April 22, 2016 Share Posted April 22, 2016 Now hang on, I remember killing Rawal...after I got the tool removed...that would change some of these. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Mea Tulpa Posted April 22, 2016 Author Share Posted April 22, 2016 If you kill any member of the Shaper Council, including Rawal, you will not be able to access endings 1-4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Lilith Posted April 22, 2016 Share Posted April 22, 2016 Yeah, none of the Shaper Council members particularly like each other but they'll all stand together against you if you kill one of them: the zones they're in will all go hostile and you'll be forced down Ghaldring's path. If you manage to make Ghaldring hostile as well, you get an instant game over as everyone you could possibly have allied with works together to hunt you down. Ircher 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyshakk Koan Alberich Posted April 22, 2016 Share Posted April 22, 2016 But I'm 90% sure I killed Rawal and 100% sure I got the "Litalia" ending. (She took out the tool for me.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Randomizer Posted April 22, 2016 Share Posted April 22, 2016 You left off the ending that you can get as early as the first zone where you attack a friendly and you get hunted down as untrustworthy. I found that one when I targeted Mehken instead of the creation attacking it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyshakk Koan Alberich Posted April 22, 2016 Share Posted April 22, 2016 (On reflection, maybe not 90%. I know I went to his palace and I know he was perturbed my control tool was gone...and I know I raised some hell and did some very satisfying harm. I think I killed him but it has been many years.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody Owenmoz Posted April 22, 2016 Share Posted April 22, 2016 Does the shaper rawal ending include here? Well it tech inst an ending. I actually liked this set less than the g3 set. It's all rather shallow and in the end your actions make no difference in the long run. But i guess i can realistically justify why. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Lilith Posted April 22, 2016 Share Posted April 22, 2016 (On reflection, maybe not 90%. I know I went to his palace and I know he was perturbed my control tool was gone...and I know I raised some hell and did some very satisfying harm. I think I killed him but it has been many years.) It's certainly possible to go to Rawal and brag to him about how you got your control tool removed. He'll be furious and I'm pretty sure he won't give you any more quests if you haven't done them all yet, but he still won't attack you unless you directly pick a fight with him. That's probably what happened to you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Randomizer Posted April 22, 2016 Share Posted April 22, 2016 If you attack Rawal while you still have the control tool in you, there is a fast death ending. If you merely defy him, you get a taste of what can happen. There is a Rawal ending where you stay loyal to him and are there where then Rebels come to destroy him after getting rid of the other Shapers. This happens after doing all of Rawal's quests. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Mea Tulpa Posted April 22, 2016 Author Share Posted April 22, 2016 Every SW game has one or more "death" endings, with a varying amount of text, that you can get by dying or doing something that leads to you dying. The Rawal "ending" goes in that category; it isn't a full ending, so it isn't listed here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall alhoon Posted April 22, 2016 Share Posted April 22, 2016 When I played with Litalia, I think the rebels were destroyed and got the Ashen isles (if that at all). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Mea Tulpa Posted April 22, 2016 Author Share Posted April 22, 2016 Do you have a save you can use to check on that? I don't see any text that would work for that possibility, so I'm not sure that's possible, but I don't want to rule anything out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Mea Tulpa Posted May 31, 2016 Author Share Posted May 31, 2016 Updated per old observations about Greta and Rawal. Can anyone confirm who leads the council if not Rawal, in Astoria's ending? I don't think it specifies, so I guess still Shema? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk Level 1 Hermit Posted June 5, 2016 Share Posted June 5, 2016 Why can't there be an ending where the Geneforge(s) aren't destroyed :CCC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyshakk Koan Alberich Posted June 5, 2016 Share Posted June 5, 2016 Because it wouldn't really be an ending...the Geneforges would just be waiting for the next ambitious, power-hungry, or angry Shaper or Creation to make himself into a blue-glowing sociopath...and try his brand new creation idea to get revenge or build his own power....and you're back to the GF 2 situation again. Of course you could have an endless cycle of new games that way... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall alhoon Posted June 6, 2016 Share Posted June 6, 2016 Well, the book on how to make Canisters survived for the Shapers. And I doubt the Drakons agreed to stop making canisters. So both sides know how to make canister and know that geneforges are possible. It's totally possible 150 years after the endings, a Drakon\Shaper re-discovered how to make a geneforge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyshakk Koan Alberich Posted June 6, 2016 Share Posted June 6, 2016 Did it? I'd forgotten. If so that leaves some hopes to whoever wants to make a Geneforge sequel in the Warhammer system.... But as it stands it still beats having geneforges around. It takes a lot of canisters before you get to Geneforge-like levels of power and arrogance, so the threat is less. And so the ending at least feels like an ending. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall alhoon Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 For the time... I bet that's what they were thinking when they were locking everything up in Sucia. Blxz 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall alhoon Posted July 3, 2016 Share Posted July 3, 2016 The simplest and strangest of the five sets of endings. If I may ask, how you investigated the endings? Is the text in some file? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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