Tenderfoot Thahd leshpar Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 Hi. I was in the middle of an Avernum 4 runthrough when I upgraded from windows 7 to windows 10. I did a fresh install of the OS too, not the upgrade as I've had issues with that before (and I had to boy windows 10 anyway since my win 7 was... *cough* not authentic). On windows 7 the game ran flawlessly. However, after I began using windows 10 Avernum 4 (and avernum 4 only, every other avernum game runs fine) runs so slow its as if I was trying to use a commodore 64 to play it. Its completely unplayable. things that should only take a couple of seconds now take 30 to 40 seconds. My computer has the following hardware: 3.9 GHZ AMD FX 6350 6 core processor (socket AM3+) 12 GB System Ram PC3 10660 DDR3 2 GB (GDDR5) video ram Geforce 760 GTX (PCI-E 16X) 500 GB Maxtor Hard drive SATA2 1 TB Seagate HDD SATA2 BDrom/DVDRW/CDRW combo drive Asus M5A97 Motherboard Thermaltake 700 Watt ATX power supply Logitech G110 keyboard Roccat Kone Pure mouse copy and pasted from another website, hense the odd formatting. Any help would be appreciated, I'd love to finish A4 before starting A5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unflappable Drayk ĐªгŦĦ Єяŋϊε Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 Try uninstalling and reinstalling. That's usually the first thing to try. Your saved games folder is somewhere else so it won't get lost but a reinstall should fix whatever broke in the upgrade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenderfoot Thahd leshpar Posted January 26, 2016 Author Share Posted January 26, 2016 I did a fresh install of windows 10. Therefore it was a fresh install of A4 as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Lilith Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 Is the slowdown constant or does it get worse at specific times, such as when you're moving around or when battle animations are playing? The main thing I can think to suggest is to make sure you've got up-to-date Windows 10-compatible drivers for your video card. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenderfoot Thahd leshpar Posted January 26, 2016 Author Share Posted January 26, 2016 Slowdown is constant, though does seem to get worse in combat. Drivers are relatively up to date. Just as an example I can play Grand Theft Auto 5 with over 60 FPS on max graphics settings. (with V sync off). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Tyranicus Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 Just as an example I can play Grand Theft Auto 5 with over 60 FPS on max graphics settings. (with V sync off). With all settings maxed out, GTA 5 uses more than 4GB of VRAM, and you said your GPU has 2GB... That said, I agree that you shouldn't be having problems with Avernum 4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyshakk Koan Nim Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 http://spiderwebforums.ipbhost.com/index.php?/topic/19424-geneforge-1-3-extremely-sluggish-xp-32-bit-steam-versions/ Might be worth a shot ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenderfoot Thahd leshpar Posted February 5, 2016 Author Share Posted February 5, 2016 With all settings maxed out, GTA 5 uses more than 4GB of VRAM, and you said your GPU has 2GB... That said, I agree that you shouldn't be having problems with Avernum 4. 2 GB built in. The rest is taken from my system ram most likely. I have not monitored it, but I do know most modern video cards can pull system ram if they need to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenderfoot Thahd leshpar Posted February 5, 2016 Author Share Posted February 5, 2016 Originally Posted By: sea I fixed it. You'll need to download the Microsoft Application Compatibility Toolkit. http://www.microsoft...ls.aspx?id=7352 Launch the 32-bit version, create a new custom database, then a new application fix. Navigate to the affected game executable, select it, and then, on the second page of fixes, look for "ForceDirectDrawEmulation." To make sure the fix stays, right-click the database and select "Install" which will apply the fixes when you launch the game outside the Compatibility Administrator. I can confirm that this works. This fixed slowdown entirely for me, even in the menu screens. They really should maybe sticky this fix in the "Avernum 4" strategy thread or on the steam forums or something as this seems to be a common problem. Why this hasn't been stickied yet I don't know, but thank you so much Nim for posting this. It required some digging and clicking of links to get to this (aka: I read the thread and clicked a link to another thread), but I figured I'd post this fix that seems to work. This apparently works for Geneforge 1,2, and 3 as well as Avernum 4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyshakk Koan Nim Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 Why this hasn't been stickied yet I don't know, but thank you so much Nim for posting this. It required some digging and clicking of links to get to this (aka: I read the thread and clicked a link to another thread), but I figured I'd post this fix that seems to work. This apparently works for Geneforge 1,2, and 3 as well as Avernum 4. Glad you got it working. Definitely not optimal how buried this is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Lilith Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 I guess there isn't really any reason not to sticky this thread, so here you go. I've also changed the title to make it a little more general (non-Windows-10 users also seem to have experienced the same issue) and easier to find for other people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fledgling Fyora lorein0688 Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 (edited) Check for the installed drivers it might happen the installed drivers are not compatible with the system so check for it and try installing the latest one or update the drivers from the manufacturer website and try a fresh installation. To check for driver related issues: http://www.fixwindowserrors.biz/blog/free-download-driver-booster Edited May 7, 2018 by lorein0688 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fledgling Fyora VoidsX Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 (edited) Just wanted to add in case someone else runs into this, the Windows toolkit posted in the thread isn't supported any more apparently and won't work on Windows 10. The Compatibility tool is now part of a bigger "Windows ADK" pack. link: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/get-started/adk-install Edited February 24, 2019 by VoidsX Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Featured Comment Seasoned Roamer admin Posted July 29, 2020 Featured Comment Share Posted July 29, 2020 (edited) A fan (thank you!) encountered this problem and put together a guide to help walk through the solution... http://www.spiderwebsoftware.com/misc/support/Avernum4LongLoadTime.pdf Edited August 1, 2020 by admin Fix linked file issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyshakk Koan Istara Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 Unfortunately this fix did not work for me using Parallels to play Avernum 4 with Steam on a Mac. What did work was this method here (or at least it's working so far): https://steamcommunity.com/app/206020/discussions/0/1742229167187268587/ In case that link doesn't work, the basic details are: Quote All we need to fix almost all older Spiderware games is Aqrit'sDDWrapper[bitpatch.com].Unpacking and opening the folder and open aqrit.cfg and setting ForceDirectDrawEmulation to 1 and copying the files inside the wrapper folder to the root folder where the avernum4.exe is and it should run without any noticiable frame lag as before. I have also had to change the graphics settings on Parallels. In the Control Center for Windows, in Graphics you need to select: Resolution: Scaled Advanced Settings: UNCHECK Always use high-performance graphics Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk Amira The Hot Potato Posted June 19 Share Posted June 19 Sorry for the necro,but I hope someone found another solution because this doesn't work for me and I really want to have the option to replay Avernum 4 on my new pc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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