Rotghroth Rhapsody Soul of Wit Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 Originally Posted By: Twice the cost, 2x the work! Dying is cheap, but gruesome injuries are expensive. I'd rather not have people thrown clear from a cost perspective. —Alorael, who is fairly okay with regulating something if society might be picking up the costs. And with America's widespread lack of health insurance, it often is. This. Even with health insurance (or auto insurance paying for injuries) the people sharing your insurance are paying for your closed-head injuries. We don't want to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Randomizer Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 But having defined laws makes it easier to prove abuse of power. Police perjury at trials is so common that until they are caught in a blatant lie they do it as a matter of course. So using police discretion means their word about what happens goes unless you have it on film that they are wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Randomizer Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 I had to mention the latest multitasking while driving mentioned in today's Arizona Republic. A woman was observed smoking, talking on the phone, and breast feeding an infant while waiting for the traffic light to change. None of that is technically illegal in Arizona since there isn't any restrictions on driving while using cell phones here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Callie Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 It's not illegal in Arizona to have an infant in the front seat of the car? Without a seatbelt or other form of restraint? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Randomizer Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 I'm not sure about that. I know there are size limits in some states. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Alorael at Large Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 I am in favor of having police recorded. I'm willing to give up a little bit of privacy, and a fair amount of on-the-job privacy for cops, to reduce the reliance on honesty in law enforcement. —Alorael, who firmly believes law enforcement will be honest, forthright, and highly professional as long as all of those are themselves enforced by law. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Rowen Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 Before we crucify the state police forces of the U.S. just remember that they are way more fair and tolerant then police forces in some other countries. Whenever I see an officer in Idaho I don't feel I need to hide from them so they don't beat me bloody. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Alorael at Large Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 I didn't mean to crucify the police. There are some places where police forces are largely corrupt, but that's not most places. Mostly, I think cameras will exonerate officers accused of brutality; if some might be tempted to brutality and held in check by the extra watching eyes, that's good to. —Alorael, who mostly would rather not assume that the police are benevolent. Good, bad, or indifferent by nature, under observation they'll be more prone to being on their best behavior. And if tapes go missing that's a red flag for institutionalized corruption and coverup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Randomizer Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 Not in Maricopa County, Arizona. Cameras have recorded plenty of police brutality cases with handcuffed prisoners being beaten at police stations and jails. Some of the footage did seem to meet with degaussers, but it's getting harder to get to it in time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody Soul of Wit Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 Originally Posted By: Randomizer I had to mention the latest multitasking while driving mentioned in today's Arizona Republic. A woman was observed smoking, talking on the phone, and breast feeding an infant while waiting for the traffic light to change. None of that is technically illegal in Arizona since there isn't any restrictions on driving while using cell phones here. My sister-in-law used to nap at red lights. Apparently, she could maintain the pressure on the brake pedal. Her young children would wake her when the light changed. What shocks me most about this is that I can only nap if two prerequisites are met: 1. near exhaustion, and 2. lying down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast keira Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 If you have enough time at a red light to fall asleep then someone somewhere is doing their job wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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