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Well, someone with 1256 Health and 2 demons with her to me seems like a usefull ally. And what do you mean coward? I'm smypathatic to her situation. I can see somone cracking under that pressure. I wouldn't give her a medal, but I wouldn't not give her a chance at repemtion. And helping me kill Dorikas would be a good way of showing it. A shame though. I'll let her go and hope to see her in A6

I've gotten threw the Khrosses Vanhatia underground. Its gotten me to the Dragon Mechalion Relm. I found out that Cienna is a traitor. I confronted her and I forgave her. I have 3 options, "Go away" Tell Dorikas I'll Join him" and "Die". She says that she'll help me fight Dorikas but I'm not getting the option. Is it she can't help me or did I miss soething?

I've personaly always like the the High Fighting/Low Magic stlye and thier graphics. Most people seem not to like it but its my first choice every time. I like the 2 for different reasons. The Guardian 3 looks like a leader. Sort've like someone who's powerfull but tends to stay in the command center and lead an army(like say Alwan). Dakro to me has gone to military school and studied battles from books. A "Gentlemen". I think he represents the shapers in that regard pretty well. Tristram, on the other, looks like a vetaren. Someone who dosen't know any fancy tactics but instead relies on pure instinics and sheer willpower. In that regard he repreasnts the rebals pretty well. The 1-2 Guardian is just awfull. He dosen't even have a face! The Shaper/Shaper3/Lifecrafter graphics are Good/Great/Awfull. The 1-2 one to me looks like a down to earth reashecher. I never hated it, but never perticularly liked it either. The GF3-4 one is great! To me it looks like a up-tight smart-donkey. I think its the best out of the all of them. I don't know if I alone in this, but the lifecrafter Graphic looks like its from the far east or something. And did anyonr else think of the Sholai when you saw that? The Infiltraitor/Agent is tied to me. When I look at them, I see the Agent as a diplomat, reiling on intuition and cunning. I see the Infiltraitor as someone who reilies on equipment, skill, and a little luck. They both show the rebals/shapers good When I look at the shocktrooper, I see a lifecrafter. I think the Shock Trooper should'ov been the lifecrafter and be replaced with something that looks alittle more violent. As for the Servile, I personly beilive we should've had a difference between a lifecrafter servile and a laborer servile. But it stills looks better than the old serviles

Originally Posted By: Thuryl Click to reveal.. You can't get to it until you've reached the Azure Gallery, so don't even worry about it until then. When you do, look for passages leading north. Gra-ci-as Am-e-go

Though I'm generally not into spoilers, where would this back entrance be and when can I access said backdoor.

I have bought A5(I Love It) and I'm currently in gladwells keep(the wizard east of shankers tower). I talk to him took the Geas thinking "Great. I'll just be stealing other wizards recipes right?" Well I've gotten to Harkins Landing and found the Drake under it. I want to free her, but I can't cuz of the Geas. After reading the list on what I have to do, I've realized that I don't want to kill the old Drake, I don't want to steal the Anamas prayers, and I certinly don't want to steal a dragon egg. I went to him and said " I change my mind" and he said "Well too late sucka". Okay, not that per say. Is there anything I can do to get rid of these Geas without doing his dirty work.

Well my idea was a look at the illegel shaper underground. If you have GF1, you might've come across the ruined Shaper arena where Shapers took there creations and put them against each other for gold, secreats, power, etc. There it said it was long time ago now only exist illegly and in the dark past. When I first got read that, I got excited about the chance we would see a little underground crime ring, perhaps a side story. Note this was very long while before I joined the forums. I am aware that the Barzites fiddeled with it in GF2 but aside from that we haven't seen this illegal creation fights. My idea was if Jeff ever wanted to go back to Geneforge in later years and he wanted to revamp it, perhaps he could dweal on this suggestion of crimes against creations by shapers who would let there cute pet fyoras die on a bet of 400 gold. Maybe a group of shapers tried to eradicate these atrocits who where also known as the C.B.C.R.A.(Creations Basic Civial Rights Asscotiation). This could show perhaps the shapers weren't so heartless after all. The other group might argue their creations they where beting on are misshappen experiments who are in terrible pain and should be put out of their sadness. Or perhapes they where crazy rouges that have no point to them and only take up cell space. If thats so, is it really so bad to use them for gambling if all they'll do is kill everything it can get? Then perhaps their was an arguement internaly on what to with this growing epedemic that only got overshawdowed because of the war. Some shapers sided with the C.B.C.R.A. Others sided with what I'll call for now the Mafia. Half the Shaper council couldn't care less about their creations. The other think this is morally wrong and should be stamped out. Maybe this could show the seeds of the eventual split of the shapers. I personlly think this is a very cool side story and has alot of potential to grow. Then again, thats just me. Edit: After writing all this a reilized I shouldl've just opened a whole new post for this. And this has nothing to do with GF5.(sigh

I'm not trying to back seat drive. I just had an idea, thought it was pretty good and wondered if jeff would care/respond. I wasen't trying to tell him what to do at all. I'm well aware Jeff can think of ideas himself. Hopefully, he has a brain. Hey, do video games really turn your brain to mush. If so, I'm screwed.

Thanks. Now I know not to bother.

I hope in later years he comes back to Geneforge and remakes it, perhaps taking it in a hole different direction. But first I would like him to make a completly knew game after A6. Hmmmmmm. Great, now I'll have to let my mind wander tonight and create a game from the corners of my mind that none dare go. Strange that I can think of a game in one night yet forget it in the morning. At least I can dream about an actual game. I thought of a spinoff to geneforge. I've been thinking about it and going over it for about a week now and I beilive its pretty intreasting. If I Email Jeff about it, will he e-mail me back?

Originally Posted By: Ghaldring All Geneforge 3 is capable of doing is pacifying the average idiot. ???? GF3 was a great game. Not as good as the other 3 but still, its great. And what do you mean "Pacifying the average idiot"? Are you refering to the story or the gameplay.

I'm going to asume the Sholai part is true to a degree. They wouldn't be a faction but they will have a presense. Not as much as G1 but not as little as G3. And I would say the drayks are split. Half sucked it up and joined the Human/Servile were they would be treated like allies, not pets. The other half lost their will and gave up, letting themselves become little more then slaves. On a side note, I'm curious about the gazers/eyebeasts and what did they do. I'll come back in a little and give my spectulation.

Originally Posted By: Randomizer The drayks struck a deal with the Sholai in return for Shaper knowledge they got passage and lands in the Sholai territory. The maps are marked now in Sholai language as, "He be Dragons." He He He He . Don't scare away fresh members. Not since we are so close to 6000. Oh and clois, he/she wouldn't tell us something that major too the plot anyway. Randomizer is under a contract. He/She can only give tormenting hints and vague answers.

I don't mean to get off topic( well, I guess I do ) but I been thinking. Wouldn't it make more sense if the canister angry effect was spread out? For instance, if someome uses 7 canisters, he/she's just as frequint to outbursts as someone who's used 50 canisters. I think it would be better if its spread out. Like say you've used 5 canisters. You start to get angry at little things like Dinitia saying you look different. At 7 canisters you attack creations who insult you, like that rune thahd outside Turibia Gate. At 10 you get angry at creations or normal people who tell you to do things or stop you, like that gazer outside Northforge who asked you to go away. At 15 you get mad at everything, even people who can shape. And I think it would be more entertaining to see your character slowly dive to Madness.

Very intresting. I didn't expect the shapers to split but I didn't expect they could stand completely united either. And its nice that the moderates and the extremists are divided. But what about the Drayks? Are they gonna go with the extremist or the moderates?

Or maybe for 7000 gold or for completeing a quest as a reward. Maybe Litalia could offer you something like that since shes the one who show'd you can control yourself past 6 canisters.

Weapons. I like pawning shapers

I found it. Thank you Dikiyba. I killed her and the door opened

Where is the deep focus orb. Its the only ingredient I haven't been able to find

Maybe. She'd be in the neo-awakened faction. On a side note, I don't think jeff killed your PC. I'd venture he/she is slowly roting away in Northforge cells, far away from where are last PC will be. ....last Pc(I'm sad now) Hoorahh. 100

I can only find one Barrier and its in the southeast part of the tower, on top. I'm trying to go threw it but I can't go threw it cause its a magical barrier and that would be defeating the purpose of a magical barrier. I didn't kill him, he vanished when I found him below.

Theres a tower west of the city of Kriszsen. In it, there is a wizard who is making slimes to plauge the area. Inside it, there is a Magical Barrier to the only spot in the area where I haven't gone too. Would someone tell me how to destroy it so I can find the source of the slimes.

Yes. The power to make eyebeasts should be in the hands of the sane not us insane. But so far thats the only option we have. But maybe jeff will give us a way to take away the bad effects. I hope so. Sorry to get of topic.

Hmm I say Miranda lived because she has to much potential for just 1 game. Now she's a general. Akavire Blaze was killed but Warmaster Karikass is alive and is either the next Salassar or a "general" for the drakons under Ghaldrings right arm. As for Alwan or Greta.... I can't say cause its to close to call. I want them both equaly. I know you can't tell me, but heck I'll guess anyway

The unbound will be seen in Overthrow. It says so in the discription for G5. Its just that we don't know if it will be the Rebal or the Trakovite ending. Both end in a stalemate.