I_am_a_Minotaur

That's hard to read, but I think the answer is to meet her at the forbidden docks and then take her to the docks in that area.

Sorry. It's worth the wait.

I liked the others, but this one blew them away.

Also, it's easy to train BM to the kill level. The weapon damage is sort of high so with hasted QA you could match kill, but to get enough QA you need to ignore one of the other important warrior skills whhich once again screws up damage or if it's parry, gets yo killed to fast. I think that if the problem of strength was not there and ethereal bindings were better, the Warrior would be around infiltrator level at endgame, but with the current problems it's not going to happen.

Well in real life there wouldn't be room to make an illusion near it and if it made one far away you would know it's not real. It's taking advantage of reality if anything. Also you have to move to the right area so you drive it into the wall.

That makes the Warrior more of a Servile, and defeats the purpose of playing the character at all. With Serviles you get cheaper magic so they are better. I was a shaper and I didn't have the ingredients to make legs of the tyrant.

Yes, anymore games like his are definitely a good thing.

Yes, and also the ethereal bindings seemed to do less to your weapon then the similer crystal did in G3. In G3, when hasted, I got QA 90% of the time and ended up healing around 100 damage each turn. In G4 I got QA 35% of the time and healed around 30 each turn.

I just finished G4 last night at 10:30. I have to say that this is the best game I have ever played. The Drakonian politics were very well done and as SoT pointed out, so was Ghaldring. I loved the incorporation of the Alwan-Greta rivalry, and I liked how the main characters actually did something. The whole Geneforge before your first level was very well done and very interesting to the plot line. The Shaper game ending with the final charge was very well done. I just love G4.

Ya, I just needed a bit of a strategy so I wasn't eaten by escense orbs (I was playing on torment and hadn't finished the game yet).

I have only played the game so I may have missed something so do not rely on this. When I started playing I was all excited about how, with the new action point system, the Warrior would be much better in melee. It was not. In melee, without magic, if you want to last long you need good armor. With the lower increase to encumberence rate increase from strength you had to waste many precious skill points on strength. The armor weight seemed to not have been decreased enough for you to have the best (and heaviest) armors without having massive strength. I needed 12 strength, by Moseh, to have the best protection. Another problem is that it would be much harder without a creation to back you up. Since you're a melee warrior you want a ranged creation to back you up. This means that since you aren't going to spend many points on intelligence, you want a fourth or third tier creation. This means Wingbolt, Kyshakk or Drayk. I personally chose Wingbolt, mainly because of using no canisters (I was a Shaper), but I would have chosen it anyways. You then need to use up more skill points for magic or fire shaping. There is also the problem of leadership, mech and luck. This uses up skill points that could be spent on melee skills and endurence. You now end up with far fewer skill points to spend. In G3 I had an average of 15 for fighting skills, strength and endurence. I also had high skills in mech and leadership. I had a tank for a character that could heal as much damage with his health sucking sword, as a rot could do. This game I had 19 in strength (early needed strength plus late game items), 7 in endurence and an average of 12 in melee skills. This game I had a lower level from the Artila/Wingbolt, less skill points from strength and less skill points from shaping. It may just be my bad playing or just being new to this game, but the melee warrior is alot weaker then the melee guardian.

Quote: This makes the assumption on the play style that you would use a strategy where you have multiple creations. You only need one creation.

Mystitus (or however it's spelled) is easy even on torment. All you need to do is corner him so there are only one or two copies. All you need is two guys to block places for copies.

Ok, thanks.

Ok, thanks.

Is there any way past the mines into the building?

Where is he? I've looked everywhere I can in Grosch and I can't find him/her.

Same thing happened to me when I saw the Rot.

Quote: Oh, he's a pushover. Really. I've devoloped a tactic that works, but then he runs away and I don't know where he is. Quote: Just use batons, wands, and crystals, keep your distance, and watch out for his summons. If I kept my distance he would kill me in two turns. His esscence orbs really kill me. Also, I'm a melee warrior that has three in missile weapons and I've used up the wands that I've gotten so far. And I'm on torment.

I'm using the Talisman of Might but thanks.

Shaper Monarch. He deals so much damage at such a low level and you can't corner him. I've only fought him once so far, as a warrior, and I died in one turn. I hadn't yet found the baton but the only difference would be that I would last a turn longer. He's hard for me.

I imagine Alwan to look like the origonal Guardian. A tall built guy with a huge sword and a full suit of armor that covers his entire body.

Okay, thanks.

Is it just me or is this a random effect? I've figured out that you "take your enemy's life force," but it only seems to work half the time. Does that happen to anyone else?

Thank you. It's annoying when your browser is slow and creates two topics or replies.