Well-Actually War Trall Ishad Nha Posted May 26, 2014 Share Posted May 26, 2014 (edited) My party was able to complete this easily enough. Toughest fight is in the NW corner of the Warrens. You could cast Beast Ceremony before you try to smash the tiles. Alternately, retreat around a corner and let the undead come to you in melee. I don't bother trying to kill Reptrakos the Dragon. That would require the use of Invulnerability potions or whatever. Edited May 27, 2014 by Ishad Nha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Chessrook44 Posted May 27, 2014 Author Share Posted May 27, 2014 A puzzling place this is. If anyone knows how to reach that sixth one, please let me know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Ishad Nha Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 Sounds like you need the Sever Seal spell from the Spirit Circle, Romans can't cast spells from that Circle without hacking the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Chessrook44 Posted May 28, 2014 Author Share Posted May 28, 2014 Oh, so THAT'S what the creature is... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Ishad Nha Posted May 28, 2014 Share Posted May 28, 2014 Quicksilver Feet might give your fighters the edge, it should double the damage they do in a given space of time. Ditto, it would enable the Druids to heal twice as much damage in the same time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Chessrook44 Posted May 29, 2014 Author Share Posted May 29, 2014 Whole bunch of various things happening in this episode. Not much to say beyond that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Ishad Nha Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 Hagfen, the place to be, as you will soon see... My Druids have minimal weapon skills and strong magic. Their melee/ranged attacks leave a lot to be desired but the magic makes up for that. Once they have attained level 8 in Druidism, Health Circle and Battle Circle they then go on to develop more weapon skills. Roman melee is impressive but they still need magic. Celts can just begin playing but Romans really need to know what is going to happen in the game. That means they can go straight to sources of spells as soon as they are able. Reptrakos the Dragon can be wiped out with no loss of PCs but the two fighters used Invulnerability Draughts as soon as combat started. Hero of Old was then cast upon each of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Chessrook44 Posted May 30, 2014 Author Share Posted May 30, 2014 Well I know which side I'm choosing in this little Feud of Skins here... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Jerakeen Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 You can choose both sides. It feels pretty evil, but the selkies are not entirely innocent themselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Ishad Nha Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 (edited) I give myself the Pelt, via the method outlined in post #45 above. I may also kill the Hags after the quest is completed. Never do I harm the Selkies. Thus there is a good way to do both the Selkie and the Hag quests. Edited May 31, 2014 by Ishad Nha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Chessrook44 Posted May 31, 2014 Author Share Posted May 31, 2014 Finishing up the previous quest, followed by taking care of a few things left behind. It's time to go back... Oh yes, and I shan't be doing any editing of game files or anything like that unless the game was rendered broken by some bug or something. Just a note. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Ishad Nha Posted June 1, 2014 Share Posted June 1, 2014 If you don't edit game files you have to kill the Selkie Chief or pass over a really nice reward... (This game is biased against the Romans in the area of quests). North of that bridge you will find dungeons that should be profitable and survivable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Chessrook44 Posted June 1, 2014 Author Share Posted June 1, 2014 Guess I'll be missing out on that reward then. No hacks, and killing the chief just seems mean. Ah well, such is my way sometimes! Either way, at long last we FINALLY head into the northeast! EXPLORATIONS ABOUND!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Chessrook44 Posted June 2, 2014 Author Share Posted June 2, 2014 Ah, fomorians. Big lugs with big clubs. This is gonna be fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Ishad Nha Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 Piercing Sight, range is not all that great if you are walking away from its area of effect. It is best cast on the boundary between the known and the unexplored. The room with the Savage Altar was thus not detected. Two other areas were not detected too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Chessrook44 Posted June 3, 2014 Author Share Posted June 3, 2014 Piercing Sight, range is not all that great if you are walking away from its area of effect. It is best cast on the boundary between the known and the unexplored. The room with the Savage Altar was thus not detected. Two other areas were not detected too. And here I thought the room with the savage altar wasn't detected just because I didn't see the door. Backtracking a bit here to take care of parts we didn't finish before. Filled with SPIRITS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Ishad Nha Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 Hero of Old is like being able to cast Beast Ceremony and Haste on an individual PC in the middle of combat. I use it a lot. Especially useful in N:R when you open a door and find a big fight awaiting you, then you usually can't close the door to cast Beast Ceremony (unlike Original Nethergate). Useful outdoors in both versions of Nethergate where you can never cast non-combat spells like the Ceremony. I don't think you ever get Total Healing or Heartshock as a Roman. You never get the ability to cast any of the five Nether Circle spells. You may be doing a second version of your playthrough entitled "Older but Wiser", Romans really get a raw deal in spellcasting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Chessrook44 Posted June 4, 2014 Author Share Posted June 4, 2014 So many goblins here... it feels kinda like a massacre to be honest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Chessrook44 Posted June 5, 2014 Author Share Posted June 5, 2014 Wandering through caves and taking care of a quest we were hinted at long ago. Now why was that quest supposed to be hard again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Ishad Nha Posted June 6, 2014 Share Posted June 6, 2014 I am now trying a party where you have three warriors and one Druid. Warriors develop combat skills and Druid develops the spellcasting. Each warrior has one, and only one, level in the Healing Circle. They don't wear heavy armor so they are not encumbered, hence they usually hit their targets. Druid has only one level in Melee, Javelins and Slings. So far it seems a strong party, it went through the Mines effortlessly. Rhian will join as the second spellcaster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Chessrook44 Posted June 6, 2014 Author Share Posted June 6, 2014 Nice little place these hills... I may have to visit more often. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Ishad Nha Posted June 7, 2014 Share Posted June 7, 2014 My hunch is that N:R is set up in a way that makes a pure Fighter and a pure Druid more powerful than a pair of Fighter/Druids. Fighting from exploration mode rather than combat mode disguises this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Chessrook44 Posted June 7, 2014 Author Share Posted June 7, 2014 My hunch is that N:R is set up in a way that makes a pure Fighter and a pure Druid more powerful than a pair of Fighter/Druids. Fighting from exploration mode rather than combat mode disguises this. You say that, but there are, as in most games, balances. Fighters can do heavy damage yes, but ranged units can tear them apart, and it can take them a while to reach their foes (Longer if heavy armor drains them of AP). Mages have that range and can do decent varieties of damage, but they're limited in how many spells they can cast, and they are frequently quite fragile. This is why I generally try to go with equal amounts of both types... I don't excel in one or the other, but I end up doing passably well in all circumstances. Hell if I had an all-fighter party I'd get torn apart by guys on ledges with little way to respond beyond using slings and precious javelins. Either way, here we find the Rose Lady. Surprisingly tricky, she is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Randomizer Posted June 7, 2014 Share Posted June 7, 2014 N:R nerfed Druids compared to the original game. The game caps the target number for multi-target spells so a pure Roman Druid party is much harder. You work best with a combination of fighters and druids that provide buffing spells and healing during combat. You tend to get more damage from fighters and save the spell power for range attacks when needed because the fighters can't reach their targets. However fighters should have some range attacks for closing the gap and when they can't reach because of ledges. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Ishad Nha Posted June 8, 2014 Share Posted June 8, 2014 (edited) My party was able to totally wipe out all hostiles in the Hollow Hills, without any losses, when they were level 16. This happened when fighting from combat mode not the easier exploration mode. Before you take out the Rose Lady remember to buy up anything that might prove useful, the storekeepers all turn hostile once you attack the Lady. In post #72 I was talking about concentrating all of a PC's skill points in combat skills for fighters, and concentrating them in magic for Druids. I suspect that if you split a PC's skill points between combat and magic, the PC will be much weaker. I have three fighters and two Druids. Slings are still useful for Romans, just the thing for enemies on raised platforms. Edited June 8, 2014 by Ishad Nha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Chessrook44 Posted June 8, 2014 Author Share Posted June 8, 2014 Good god, I hate this place... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Chessrook44 Posted June 9, 2014 Author Share Posted June 9, 2014 Behold! Queen of women who have lost their spouse! Wait that's not right... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Ishad Nha Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 Slings are still useful for Romans, just the thing for enemies on raised platforms, all party members should have them. Wand of Carrunos strengthens the foe, just the thing for an interesting fight. You missed two treasure areas in the Maze of Thorns. It has five inaccessible areas. I always check every body for loot, frequently you find junk but sometimes you really hit the jackpot. Romans never get Heartshock or Total Healing, regardless of levels in War and Health Circles, not without hacking the game. This is different to the original Nethergate where you did get both spells. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Chessrook44 Posted June 10, 2014 Author Share Posted June 10, 2014 Slings are still useful for Romans, just the thing for enemies on raised platforms, all party members should have them. Wand of Carrunos strengthens the foe, just the thing for an interesting fight. You missed two treasure areas in the Maze of Thorns. It has five inaccessible areas. I always check every body for loot, frequently you find junk but sometimes you really hit the jackpot. Romans never get Heartshock or Total Healing, regardless of levels in War and Health Circles, not without hacking the game. This is different to the original Nethergate where you did get both spells. If you notice, I actually have slings on three of my party members. Julius and Augustus, however, carry blessed javelins to use in a pinch, when they can't reach and the targets are strong. Wow, Wands of Carrunos seem useless then. I'll have to dump it. Figures I missed areas... bloody walls seemed impossible to get through despite trying. I check every body as well. Always check everything. Sucks that we won't get the spells. I can hope but... nyeh. And now to finish off something we left behind long ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Ishad Nha Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 (edited) With missile weapons you can do fire and movement, just the thing for the Maze. Secret doors are usually only one square wide, so you must check every last square in the affected area. Numeric keypad makes that quick and simple. You don't need Heartshock but that only leaves two offensive spells, (then there is Bite of the Serpent which is annoying rather than dangerous). With the Beastmaster Bracelet you can now cast Coils of the Serpent, handy in a tough fight. Edited June 11, 2014 by Ishad Nha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Chessrook44 Posted June 11, 2014 Author Share Posted June 11, 2014 Further wanderings and mixings ins of various thingseseses... I think that sentence got away from me there a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Chessrook44 Posted June 12, 2014 Author Share Posted June 12, 2014 Due to long upload times and work needing going to, I'll be posting the video on the forums later. You should be able to find it on my channel until then. Edit: Appologies for the delay, here is the new episode. Enjoy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Chessrook44 Posted June 13, 2014 Author Share Posted June 13, 2014 What would YOU do, if given the choice? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Ishad Nha Posted June 14, 2014 Share Posted June 14, 2014 My three warrior and two Druid party just completed the game without major problems. Fight with the four Cave Slimes was tough even with the Hero of Old spell being used. Maybe send in one fighter covered with a Draught of Invulnerability... West part of the Hall of the Lamp is Celt-only, ditto the part where you were is Roman-only. Sylak's Skull can be parked near the entrance of a dungeon when you enter it, then you can collect it when you leave. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Chessrook44 Posted June 14, 2014 Author Share Posted June 14, 2014 Sylak's Skull can be parked near the entrance of a dungeon when you enter it, then you can collect it when you leave. Knowing my memory I'd probably forget it the second time I tried that and not realize it for ages. This area... is a very interesting area. I like it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Chessrook44 Posted June 15, 2014 Author Share Posted June 15, 2014 I admit... bit of a filler episode for most of this episode, but we're just about done with the random other crap! Yay! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Chessrook44 Posted June 16, 2014 Author Share Posted June 16, 2014 Once again, YouTube is being annoying and taking a long time to upload the episode. I will post it here when I get a chance... until then, you can see it once it's done on my YouTube page. EDIT: Here's the vid. Finally we're back on the main questline! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Chessrook44 Posted June 17, 2014 Author Share Posted June 17, 2014 Deeper and deeper into Goagh-Nar while we look for- ooo! Treasure! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Chessrook44 Posted June 18, 2014 Author Share Posted June 18, 2014 One down, two to go. Now we just have to-DAMMIT!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Chessrook44 Posted June 19, 2014 Author Share Posted June 19, 2014 Interesting that a party is going on here like this. Though I do still find it curious that they just let us in... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Chessrook44 Posted June 20, 2014 Author Share Posted June 20, 2014 So many dead fairies... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Chessrook44 Posted June 21, 2014 Author Share Posted June 21, 2014 Oh I've been DREADing this battle. Eeeh? Eeeh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Chessrook44 Posted June 22, 2014 Author Share Posted June 22, 2014 Sometimes in a world of magic, mundane methods are most effective. Bloody Brigantes... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Ishad Nha Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 A Sylak item, found in the Dragon's hoard, will make Annwn so much easier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Chessrook44 Posted June 23, 2014 Author Share Posted June 23, 2014 And so we begin our travels into Annwyn, Land of the Dead. And possibly die on the way. Bothersome... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Ishad Nha Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 Only food explicitly identified as "ghost food" will kill you. Food found as ordinary items will not, ditto food produced by the Sylak item. Teleporters, if you have trouble remembering where each one goes, just keep some notes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Chessrook44 Posted June 24, 2014 Author Share Posted June 24, 2014 Further explorations of Anwynn. Truly the dead are everywhere here... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Ishad Nha Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 You only need to worry about food grown in Annwn. Such food only exists in special encounters, never as items in your inventory. Food brought into Annwn from the land of the living is still perfectly safe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Chessrook44 Posted June 25, 2014 Author Share Posted June 25, 2014 I'd actually thought up while recording that perhaps food that ended up in the inventory would have been fine, but ended up going the "Better safe than sorry" route and never ate anything. Further travels through Anwynn, but I do believe we're getting close to the crown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Chessrook44 Posted June 26, 2014 Author Share Posted June 26, 2014 The crown is within our reach! Maybe this time we can KEEP it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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