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Posted 05 October 2015 - 02:58 AM #1 Vahnatai PC Graphics (and others) Wanted!

Hello!

Final tests are being done, a few new or tweaked features and some bug fixes are being prepared and implemented, and the first fully-functioning, release-quality version of Open Blades of Exile (OBoE) is nearing completion!

Part of the last things we're doing is adding some last-minute graphics. We'd love to include some of Luz Piazuelo's beautiful work, but alas we can't figure out how to contact her to get her graphics officially released under a Free license. We have an email address for Andrew Hunter whose Exile Trilogy work we'd like to include but Spidweb can't remember whether they have full rights to his graphics (they do but we can't really argue with them) and Mr.  Hunter didn't respond to my email. So what's been happening is I, personally, have been giving my best shot at creating alternate graphics filling the niches we need.

Alas, I suck at it.

One new feature is the long-wished-for Vahnatai PCs. The specific mechanics are being balanced but you can indeed create Vahnatai PCs to go on adventures with you as of the current beta release. The thing is, we need original PC graphics for this race, and my attempts at making them have been less than spectacular. So, if any of you are good with GIMP or Photoshop or the like and can create original, non-color-shifted Vahnatai graphics which passably match the style of Andrew Hunter's work, and would like to release them under GNU GPL 2.0+ (other Free licenses may work too, I don't know), we'd love to have them! We need four, preferably: a waveblade wielder, a razorblade wielder, a spellcaster, and one other.

Inclusion of the graphics is at the discretion of myself and Celtic Minstrel. CM can be picky (reasonably so, because we both want a highest-quality, consistent experience for players and designers), so don't be offended if your graphics aren't used; CM rejects my graphics more often than I'd like. :( Besides, even if they're not packaged with the game, they can always be used as custom graphics in user-made scenarios!

If you have anything such as wall or floor sets, townspeople, spellcasters, and warriors, dialog icons, or other broadly-usable graphics, we'd love to see those too.

Thanks for your support! (By the way, you can still buy lovely promotional Blades of Exile T shirts. The link is in my signature. Excuse the formatting, Spreadshirt's programmers are less than spectacular too...)
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Posted 05 October 2015 - 12:52 PM #2 Vahnatai PC Graphics (and others) Wanted!

Let me just say that what ADoS said above is, pretty much, all entirely true. However, I would like to clarify (and expand on) a couple of things.

  • Regarding the impending release:

    Yes, it's close to a 2.0 release. This is true. It has been true since maybe March, but it's even more true now thanks to my slow and tedious creation of unit tests (which caught a number of bugs that had been plaguing the project before that).

    But what does "close" mean? When can you expect a release?

    Optimistically, I'd like to say "by the end of the year", but that can't be considered anything more than tentative. The way ADoS said it makes it sounds like there's only a few tests left, but that's not the case. Rather, I've finally completed one significant block of tests. There are at least two similarly-significant blocks remaining (one of which is already partially completed).

  • Regarding new core graphics:

    ADoS said that inclusion of the graphics is at the discretion of himself and me, which isn't exactly false, but conceals the fact that I have more say than he does. I listen to his opinions, but like he said, I'm picky about the art, and generally speaking I won't commit something if I really dislike it, even if ADoS really likes it. Conversely, if I really liked something, I might commit it even if ADoS doesn't like it that much. (This case hasn't happened in practice, probably because ADoS was doing all the art so far, but it's possible it could happen.)

    I'll also point out that, while much of the art ADoS contributed is (in my opinion) quite good, some of it still isn't up to the quality of the original graphics and thus still needs work (or replacing). There are a few new terrain graphics in particular that I'm not fond of that I'd like to replace (such as the "tent walls" that, to me, look more like a carpeted floor).

    Besides the minimum four Vahnatai PCs, here are a few other things that would be nice to have:
    • Additional slith/nephil/vahnatai PC graphics. (Additional human graphics are okay too, but less likely to be accepted since there's already a lot of them.)
    • A few new monster graphics (probably just small monsters, though larger ones might be accepted too if they're good enough and fit the game well).
    • Some new talk portraits, dialog icons, and scenario icons. In particular, scenario icons for snow-themed and desert-themed scenarios.
    • It might be nice to have one or two additional missile animation graphics.
    Item graphics in particular are unlikely to be accepted, unless they're small enough to fit in 18x18.

    If anyone owns any of the graphics on Pixel Profusion and would like to step up and grant permission for them to be used, that would also be wonderful. Mind you, many of those graphics are not up to the quality of the original core graphics, so giving permission does not mean they would be used. Still, I recall seeing some nice ones on there that weren't by Luz.

  • Regarding Luz Piazuelo and Andrew Hunter:

    It's true that there has been some attempt to get permission for the E3 graphics and some of Luz's graphics. If anyone knows another way to contact Luz or Andrew, both ADoS and I would like to hear of it.

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Posted 05 October 2015 - 04:57 PM #3 Vahnatai PC Graphics (and others) Wanted!

I have Andrew Hunter's email address, it's the same as the AOL one in the original credits, but at Gmail now. He has made hobby of drawing naughty cartoons as a rebellious reaction to his actual career censoring foreign video game graphics for the sensitive American market, and his contact info is on that site. It's possible I went to Spam, he didn't notice it, or he for some reason really wants nothing to do with BoE. I may email him again, just in case. (What we especially want from him are a few monster graphics and the classic blue cave set. I made my own cave set that I love but which CM doesn't like. He has veto power as the one who knows how to make the graphics accessible by default. :( )

Luz, however, is elusive. There are a number of Luz Piazuelos on the Internet, none of which seem to be Luz Piazuelo of The Blazing Blade. The email address on her site (now hosted in archive at TrueSite) is dead. We'd really like her contact info, if anyone has it. Alternately, I know she shows up here very occasionally, so if you're here, Luz, please talk to us!
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Posted 26 October 2015 - 01:46 AM #4 Vahnatai PC Graphics (and others) Wanted!

Not sure if this is how you wanted this to be submitted, but whatever.

Vahnatai Spellcaster:

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Posted 27 October 2015 - 06:44 PM #5 Vahnatai PC Graphics (and others) Wanted!

Thanks for trying!

Hmm, it's not bad, I guess. The arm is abnormally straight, and it looks like there's artifacts around the edges. By the way, you didn't base this on something from Blades of Avernum, did you? The robe's style looks more like Avernum than Exile. Basing new graphics on Blades of Avernum graphics is a bad idea in general (since there's no guarantee that BoA will be open-sourced), but especially bad when it comes to monsters, as BoA monsters are completely different stylistically.

So, I'm sorry, but I can't accept this one as it currently is.
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Posted 27 October 2015 - 08:55 PM #6 Vahnatai PC Graphics (and others) Wanted!

I see what you mean about it looking more like a BoA Vahnatai. Thats no problem, I'll fiddle with the caster graphic a bit and try again. Here's a melee guy.

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Posted 29 October 2015 - 11:09 AM #7 Vahnatai PC Graphics (and others) Wanted!

Does that mean you didn't actually base it on a BoA Vahnatai directly? We don't want edits from BoA graphics, especially not in monsters, but if it's original and just happens to more closely match BoA in the aesthetic, then feel free to resubmit a tweaked version.

Your waveblade wielder looks like his leg is bent backwards at the knee. It's very disconcerting. Also, the position of the sword itself doesn't make sense. It also seems to more closely match BoA than BoE, to me. If you don't quite understand why, take a look at the original BoE Vahnatai graphics here.
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Posted 29 October 2015 - 12:59 PM #8 Vahnatai PC Graphics (and others) Wanted!

If you really want consistency, we could ask Luz, now that we have her attention.

But I think if the one in the blue robe had zir robe edited to be translucent like the other Exile Vahnatai (and clearly Kelyar-Ihrno knows how to do it, ze did it with the second Vahnatai) I think I'd like that one. The one in the yellow robe appears to be standing like nephilim, i.e. on their toes with a long foot to allow pouncing, like the cats they're based on. I think Vahnatai have humanesque legs, held straight with the entire foot on the ground.
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Posted 29 October 2015 - 02:57 PM #9 Vahnatai PC Graphics (and others) Wanted!

Ah, no, neither of those are based on any graphics from BoA; both were made from scratch in Photoshop. The plain looking poncho with the simple border just looked like that style.

As for the legs, I thought I read a dialog in Exile 2 somewhere that described Vahnatai with reversed knees, but I guess not. I can fix that as well, along with the slightly over-sized waveblade.

I've almost finished giving the caster a new robe with more detail and rounder shape. Just need to make a new spell-flame thing; the green one from the first draft was too small.
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Posted 29 October 2015 - 04:30 PM #10 Vahnatai PC Graphics (and others) Wanted!

View PostThe Almighty Doer of Stuff, on 29 October 2015 - 12:59 PM, said:

If you really want consistency, we could ask Luz, now that we have her attention.
You can if you really want, but I don't think we need to do that. Asking to use existing art is quite different from asking for new art.

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Ah, no, neither of those are based on any graphics from BoA; both were made from scratch in Photoshop. The plain looking poncho with the simple border just looked like that style.
Ah, okay then. That's good.

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As for the legs, I thought I read a dialog in Exile 2 somewhere that described Vahnatai with reversed knees, but I guess not.
I think this is the first I've heard of that... I looked over the existing monster Vahnatai graphics as well just now, and there are some that sort of slightly support it. Either way though, what you drew looks weird to me when compared to the ones we have already.
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Posted 29 October 2015 - 04:31 PM #11 Vahnatai PC Graphics (and others) Wanted!

View PostKelyar-Ihrno, on 29 October 2015 - 02:57 PM, said:

As for the legs, I thought I read a dialog in Exile 2 somewhere that described Vahnatai with reversed knees, but I guess not.

...Does this sound familiar to you too, CM? Either way, the poor guy looks like he's going to fall over and crush his own skull with that sword. :p

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Posted 29 October 2015 - 04:33 PM #12 Vahnatai PC Graphics (and others) Wanted!

View PostThe Almighty Doer of Stuff, on 29 October 2015 - 04:31 PM, said:

...Does this sound familiar to you too, CM?
Heh, you posted at the same time as I did. :p No, it doesn't sound familiar, but you'd probably know better than I.
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Posted 30 October 2015 - 08:03 PM #13 Vahnatai PC Graphics (and others) Wanted!

After looking through someone's Exile II Let's Play, the closest description I found to support my assumption called them "many-jointed", so its fairly ambiguous. In any case, I'll focus on making them more similar to the extant Vahnatai graphics.

Ok, so caster version 2:

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and for fun, the full size image which I then scale down and tweak:

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As for the warrior, I was going for a fencer sort of pose, but he ended up just looking rather awkward. More edits for him are forthcoming.

EDIT:
I also found the Crystal Walls graphics I made as a kid (edited from the blue bubbly unicorn walls from ZKR). Posting that as well.

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Edited by Kelyar-Ihrno, 30 October 2015 - 08:13 PM.

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Posted 30 October 2015 - 08:18 PM #14 Vahnatai PC Graphics (and others) Wanted!

That does look a lot nicer. It still seems a bit different stylistically from the monster vahnatai graphics, but... I think I can accept it like that.

I do think the flame is a bit big though. Also, for it to be a flame is maybe a little too specific; a generic magical glow sort of thing would probably be better.

The crystal wall isn't very good at all, sorry. But maybe you expected that.
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Posted 30 October 2015 - 08:19 PM #15 Vahnatai PC Graphics (and others) Wanted!

I really like that one! The only improvement I think is needed is to pull zir hand out from under zir robe. I'm trying to get CM's attention to see what he thinks.

By the way, what's your preferred pronoun set, if you want to say? I've just been calling you ze/zir when discussing your work with CM.

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Posted 30 October 2015 - 08:25 PM #16 Vahnatai PC Graphics (and others) Wanted!

Ah, yeah, that's a good point. The large version seems to suggest the hand is under the robe, but it probably shouldn't be.
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Posted 30 October 2015 - 09:11 PM #17 Vahnatai PC Graphics (and others) Wanted!

View PostThe Almighty Doer of Stuff, on 30 October 2015 - 08:19 PM, said:


By the way, what's your preferred pronoun set, if you want to say? I've just been calling you ze/zir when discussing your work with CM.


He and other predominately male pronouns will do nicely.

View PostCeltic Minstrel, on 30 October 2015 - 08:18 PM, said:


The crystal wall isn't very good at all, sorry. But maybe you expected that.


As a matter of fact, I did. >.<

Slightly modified:

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Magic slightly shrunk, colored blue, right arm moved out from under his robe.
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Posted 30 October 2015 - 09:20 PM #18 Vahnatai PC Graphics (and others) Wanted!

Looks good to me. Have a good night.
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Posted 01 November 2015 - 07:50 AM #19 Vahnatai PC Graphics (and others) Wanted!

Looks pretty good now. I'm kind of wondering about that orange thing at the neck, though - it really stands out and looks slightly weird.

Would be nice to have additional opinions on these.
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Posted 01 November 2015 - 03:50 PM #20 Vahnatai PC Graphics (and others) Wanted!

It looks a little odd to me that the caster has magic stuff on their hand, but loses it when attacking, rather than using it to attack and not having it normally.  Though looking at the existing PCs that is true of two of them.  Also, the waveblade is really big, maybe twice the size of the vahnatai warrior's one.

OTOH, I always modify my own PC graphics anyway.

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Posted 01 November 2015 - 08:51 PM #21 Vahnatai PC Graphics (and others) Wanted!

View PostThaluikhain, on 01 November 2015 - 03:50 PM, said:

It looks a little odd to me that the caster has magic stuff on their hand, but loses it when attacking, rather than using it to attack and not having it normally.
I think the idea is that, when attacking, that magic glow is effectively being "thrown", so it would become a missile.

View PostThaluikhain, on 01 November 2015 - 03:50 PM, said:

OTOH, I always modify my own PC graphics anyway.
Then I suppose you'll be happy to know that I plan to add a way to import a custom graphic for your PCs.
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Posted 02 November 2015 - 02:47 AM #22 Vahnatai PC Graphics (and others) Wanted!

View PostCeltic Minstrel, on 01 November 2015 - 08:51 PM, said:

I think the idea is that, when attacking, that magic glow is effectively being "thrown", so it would become a missile.

Ah, that would make sense, yes.

View PostCeltic Minstrel, on 01 November 2015 - 08:51 PM, said:

Then I suppose you'll be happy to know that I plan to add a way to import a custom graphic for your PCs.

Is that really necessary?  I mean, it's easy to just alter then PCS.bmp file.

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Posted 02 November 2015 - 09:04 AM #23 Vahnatai PC Graphics (and others) Wanted!

It is easy to alter the file but then if you need to use a special party for a scenario, you may have messed up the way the character is supposed to look. That hasn't stopped me from rearranging them, but I'll probably put them back in order when CM finishes that feature.

As for the orange thing, looks fine to me. At least one or two of the existing Vahnatai mob graphics have them, in various colors. Humans must not be the only ones to think dressing in layers is wise.
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Posted 02 November 2015 - 10:03 AM #24 Vahnatai PC Graphics (and others) Wanted!

View PostThaluikhain, on 02 November 2015 - 02:47 AM, said:

Is that really necessary?  I mean, it's easy to just alter then PCS.bmp file.
Sure, it's easy, but then when you upgrade to a newer version, your modifications will probably be wiped out.
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Posted 02 November 2015 - 02:58 PM #25 Vahnatai PC Graphics (and others) Wanted!

To keep my modified PCs, I unzip the new version into my Spidweb installers folder, go in and delete pcs.png, then I go to the old version and delete everything EXCEPT pcs.png, then cut the new version and paste it over the old one.

I look forward to not having to do this.
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Posted 02 November 2015 - 05:43 PM #26 Vahnatai PC Graphics (and others) Wanted!

Yes, a number of the normal Vahnatai graphics have that neck coif thing, but all are non-casters. I'll upload a version without the coif when I get home, at least so you can compare. My reasoning was to vary the graphic a little, and that an adventuring Vahnatai caster might adopt the extra protection or whatever that coif provides.

Will "Create New PC" nodes be able to assign an NPC graphic to the new PC? If so, that's another very good use for the custom PC graphic functionality, if the scenario designer wants to add unique characters directly to a party.
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Posted 02 November 2015 - 06:40 PM #27 Vahnatai PC Graphics (and others) Wanted!

View PostKelyar-Ihrno, on 02 November 2015 - 05:43 PM, said:

Will "Create New PC" nodes be able to assign an NPC graphic to the new PC? If so, that's another very good use for the custom PC graphic functionality, if the scenario designer wants to add unique characters directly to a party.
This is already possible. I think I even tested it.
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Posted 02 November 2015 - 09:26 PM #28 Vahnatai PC Graphics (and others) Wanted!

Caster (sans coif):

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Edited by Kelyar-Ihrno, 03 November 2015 - 02:06 PM.

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Posted 03 November 2015 - 09:25 AM #29 Vahnatai PC Graphics (and others) Wanted!

I can't see that image.
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Posted 03 November 2015 - 07:17 PM #30 Vahnatai PC Graphics (and others) Wanted!

Ehhh... I can't decide which one I like better...

I'll post them both side-by-side for better comparison though.

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It strikes me that the neck is insanely tiny. Maybe that's expected though.
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Posted 03 November 2015 - 07:37 PM #31 Vahnatai PC Graphics (and others) Wanted!

I like it better with the coif. And Vahnatai have skinny everything.
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Posted 03 November 2015 - 08:08 PM #32 Vahnatai PC Graphics (and others) Wanted!

Yeah, seconding that the coif looks better, it's a bit of a purple blob without it.

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Posted 03 November 2015 - 08:16 PM #33 Vahnatai PC Graphics (and others) Wanted!

Either way it's better than the one currently included. I've never been good at drawing people, but I can draw amorphous blobs that almost but don't quite entirely match the other amorphous blobs! The Crimson Slime is GNU GPL 2.0+ like everything else, if anyone wants to mess with it.
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Posted 04 November 2015 - 03:58 PM #34 Vahnatai PC Graphics (and others) Wanted!

I also think that the Vahnatai looks better with the coif

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Posted 04 November 2015 - 04:25 PM #35 Vahnatai PC Graphics (and others) Wanted!

Alright then. Unless Kelyar has any last tweaks to make, I'll go with the coif one in its current state.
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