Kyshakk Koan RaustBlackDragon Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 So I reached the battle with Emperor Hawthorne, and I quickly discovered that those golems and their stupid AOE attacks can decimate my party in a single turn. All of them. Even my Paladin with both hardiness and resistance maxed out, even my Amazon with maxed hardiness and a 16 point investment in endurance, nobody can survive without invulnerability potions. Fortunately, my cave lore makes it possible for me to make a few more invulnerability potions, but it kinda irritates me that such a practice is even needed, so I'm wondering if anybody has ever managed to beat Emperor Hawthorne on Torment without the use of Invulnerability potions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Lilith Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 It's possible to survive without using invulnerability potions until the last stage of the fight, at which point you can hopefully take out Hawthorne in a single round, before the golems get to attack again. It does require things to go just right for you, though, and I wouldn't blame anyone for popping a few invulnerability potions rather than risking failure at the very end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chittering Clawbug kensuguro Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 Did you buff with wards and cloaks? I haven't tried on torment yet, but planning to, and was wondering if that'll make some difference. I'd imagine invulnerability would still turn the battle upside down even on torment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyshakk Koan RaustBlackDragon Posted September 24, 2012 Author Share Posted September 24, 2012 Originally Posted By: kensuguro Did you buff with wards and cloaks? I haven't tried on torment yet, but planning to, and was wondering if that'll make some difference. I'd imagine invulnerability would still turn the battle upside down even on torment. Yeah, I buffed with wards and cloaks, level 3 elements and arcane, and my resistances are 87% for my paladin, and even HE can't survive a single round against those golems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Randomizer Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 Torment has a hidden -30% to physical armor and resistances. But those golems with overlapping area of effects are nasty. Without invulnerability potions my priest was raising the other party members every turn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody The Reverend Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 On hard I managed Hawthorne without invulnerability potions, but I could see that being much more difficult with the 30% torment resistance penalty. It effectively means that you'll never be able to block more than 60% of the damage, which would hurt against those nasty golems ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Lilith Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 It helps if you have two tanks to keep the golems split up, so that nobody is taking all their attacks every round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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