Tenderfoot Thahd Nelzoma Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 Will Avernum be coming out on Steam anytime soon or is Steam reluctant to have a game that's Mac only? I like having my games on Steam and don't really want to buy it twice but if it'll be a while I might as well buy it now. So I'm eager to find out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Alorael at Large Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 Originally Posted By: Spidweb We hope that Steam chooses to accept Avernum, and we think they will. If they do, it will be released on the platform most likely some time in April (though the exact date, once we gets builds to them, is up to them). - Jeff Vogel —Alorael, who thinks that implies Steam's reluctance to have Mac-only games, or maybe just Jeff's reluctance to give a Mac-only first release on Steam. In any case, there will be a while to wait. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenderfoot Thahd Vertimyst Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 I don't mean to hijack the thread, but /if/ the game is released on Steam, will it support Steamplay? Or will it be Windows-only like Avadon? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody Soul of Wit Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 Originally Posted By: Vertimyst I don't mean to hijack the thread, but /if/ the game is released on Steam, will it support Steamplay? Or will it be Windows-only like Avadon? Avadon on Steam is not Windows-only. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Alorael at Large Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 But it doesn't support Steamplay. I expect Avernum to be the same. —Alorael, who would love Steamplay; it's one of the few real, constant benefits of Steam. He just won't expect it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody Vent Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 Steamplay? What's that marvelous feature if it's not just dual support Windows and Mac? (In steam Steamplay means only that but players could have put some other features in this tag) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody Soul of Wit Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 Originally Posted By: Signaling Pathways into Darkness But it doesn't support Steamplay. I expect Avernum to be the same. —Alorael, who would love Steamplay; it's one of the few real, constant benefits of Steam. He just won't expect it. If I look in the Steam store, I see Steamplay next to Avadon. Doesn't that mean that I can pay once and play in both Mac and Windows? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Alorael at Large Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 Whoops, I'm confusing Steamplay with Steamworks. Avernum will have Steamplay. It won't have Steamworks, and you won't be able to easily play one save on multiple computers without transferring it yourself. —Alorael, who supposes Steamplay is also nice. It's just also something you get with any Spiderweb purchase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenderfoot Thahd Vertimyst Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 Originally Posted By: gone forever until tomorrow Whoops, I'm confusing Steamplay with Steamworks. Avernum will have Steamplay. It won't have Steamworks, and you won't be able to easily play one save on multiple computers without transferring it yourself. —Alorael, who supposes Steamplay is also nice. It's just also something you get with any Spiderweb purchase. Yeah, I didn't think Avadon did, but I wasn't able to get Steam open to check. Does that mean that if I buy the Mac version of Avernum directly from Spiderweb, I'll also get a Windows copy? It's something I've been wondering about, but I'll probably end up waiting for the Steam version anyway. *likes to keep his games in one place* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Tyranicus Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 Originally Posted By: Vertimyst Does that mean that if I buy the Mac version of Avernum directly from Spiderweb, I'll also get a Windows copy? The registration key is good for both Mac and Windows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenderfoot Thahd Vertimyst Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 Oh, awesome, thanks. Now I just have to decide if I'll buy it now or wait and see if it's on Steam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fledgling Fyora dixius99 Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 Sorry to bring this one back from the dead, but is it possible that Spiderweb might issue Steam keys to early buyers if/when the game makes it to Steam? I've known of publishers doing that in the past, and have always appreciated it. Sort of the best of both worlds in that you can play the game now as an early adopter, and add it to your Steam library at a later date. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall A less presumptuous name. Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 I believe Jeff said that he doesn't get unlimited free keys from Steam*, so there is no way he could provide them for everyone that purchases directly from Spiderweb. *He may have been talking about the MAS, or both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Tyranicus Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 Originally Posted By: Master1 I believe Jeff said that he doesn't get unlimited free keys from Steam*, so there is no way he could provide them for everyone that purchases directly from Spiderweb. *He may have been talking about the MAS, or both. He was talking about Steam, but I imagine it applies to the Mac App Store as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Slawbug Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 Actually, I think he's said that about both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Articulate Vlish blackwight Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 It bothers me to see good work go to Steam. Their cut of the profits is truly unreasonable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Articulate Vlish blackwight Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 Here's an idea (I hope Jeff Vogel sees): Just put the first version to Steam, sell the rest directly via a link (if permitted) in the app. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Lilith Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 Originally Posted By: blackwight Here's an idea (I hope Jeff Vogel sees): Just put the first version to Steam, sell the rest directly via a link (if permitted) in the app. EA tried something like this when they were first launching their own digital distribution service, and it led to a huge and very public fight between EA and Steam. If Valve didn't let EA get away with it, they won't let Spiderweb get away with it either. Keep in mind that Steam also provides advertising and publicity to games offered on the service: sure, they take like 20-30% of revenue (exact figures are closely guarded), but having your game on Steam has the potential to increase sales by a lot more than that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Tyranicus Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 What people need to remember when they complain about Valve taking a cut is that no one is forcing a developer to use Steam. If a developer gets their game on Steam and signs the agreement, they clearly think it will pay of regardless off how much Valve takes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall A less presumptuous name. Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 Also, it takes time before the games go on Steam. To get the game at first release, you have to pay Jeff directly. Plus, there are those of us here that will always buy directly from Jeff (unless that option is no longer possible someday). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fledgling Fyora dixius99 Posted January 28, 2012 Share Posted January 28, 2012 Yeah, I bet most of the die-hard Spiderweb fans who are going to purchase have already done so. Releasing to Steam at a later date opens you up to new/casual sales you might not have ever seen (like me with Avadon, I guess). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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