Kyshakk Koan Tcheedchee Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 Is there a connection between the dexterity of a char. and it's ability to hit with a wand? I think I have recognized, that my mage, who doesn't have a lot of dexterity, misses a lot when I let him use wands (e.g. to improve his number of moves in one turn). Also I'd like to know, if you would confirm my observation that there is a connection between Spell craft and the effectivity of wandwielding. Passing time till the release of Avadon by playing A4, Theedchee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Alorael at Large Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 There should be no correlation between Dexterity and wands. There might be one between Spellcraft and wands, but there's not supposed to be any connection. —Alorael, who recalls that the A4 beta had a number of damage and to-hit probabilities calculated based on the wrong things. So he wouldn't be surprised, but he'd also want to see some numbers first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Aoslare Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 I'm pretty sure that wand damage isn't connected to any stats. Same thing for hit rates. Note that this is totally different from Geneforge -- in Geneforge, wands are equipped just like weapons, while in Avernum they are usable items just like crystals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Randomizer Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 Mage spell skill seems to make wands more effective, but that could be coincidence that mages are better at terrorizing using terror wands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Aoslare Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 Define "seems to." There's an anecdote to back up any assertion about game mechanics; that doesn't make the assertion true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Randomizer Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 Every singleton game as a natural mage trait had terror wands working over half the time against Nociduas compared to having any other trait in that place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Aoslare Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 Oh god. Nociduas. There's something I'd like to forget right there. Anyway, mental effects have always been mechanically a bit different from regular attacks. It seems possible the terror effect could read the wielder's spell stats regardless of how wands are normally treated. So that still doesn't suggest spellcraft (or Natural Mage) would affect wand damage or hit rate (hit rate being distinct from effect success rate). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyshakk Koan Tcheedchee Posted January 18, 2011 Author Share Posted January 18, 2011 Could it be a matter of distance then? That would explain, why my mage "always" misses, if it's not his dexterity. Naturally I keep him a good distance away from the melee. And how do I have to interpret the stats that state: "Mage misses." (26%) e.g. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Aoslare Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 Assuming it works the same way as for other attacks (and it should), 26% is the chance to hit. You start with a base chance to hit determined by the attack -- this is 50% for most physical attacks and 100% for most spells -- add the attacker's hit bonus (not sure what would apply for wands) and subtract the defender's evasion bonus (this seems to be across the board, so same as usual: Dex and Defense bonuses and the like). If it does list the chance to hit, this becomes very easy: have your mage and your fighter both attack the exact same enemy with the exact same wand. Reload until you see misses from both of them, and check if the percents are equal or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyshakk Koan Tcheedchee Posted January 19, 2011 Author Share Posted January 19, 2011 Wow, thanks for the tip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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