Easygoing Eyebeast Dantius Posted November 25, 2009 Share Posted November 25, 2009 Does anyone have this? Where's Dahak when you need him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unflappable Drayk Zummi Posted November 25, 2009 Share Posted November 25, 2009 Doesn't everyone die? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Randomizer Posted November 25, 2009 Share Posted November 25, 2009 Originally Posted By: meAzuma Doesn't everyone die? Yes, because I killed them. There are lots of variations depending upon what you do with 6 NPCs: Melanchion, Gladwell, the Scourge, the Vahnatai, Farrar, and the Darkside Loyalists. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Synergy Posted November 25, 2009 Share Posted November 25, 2009 I have jpegs of the ending text you get when you kill everyone Random listed above except Melanchion. I'd like to see the other ending texts too, but haven't played through those variations yet. Too bad they're hard-coded. No way to see them but play through. Someone could take pictures of other endgame variation texts though. -S- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Archaeolagent Posted November 25, 2009 Share Posted November 25, 2009 The texts can be extracted from the game files -- hard to find, but they are there. I did that for G5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unflappable Drayk Zummi Posted November 25, 2009 Share Posted November 25, 2009 Really? Searching around the Avernum 6 Files folder, I haven't seen any jpegs with text on them, maybe some, but not ending texts nor even starting ones, except, you know, for the UI. Still don't have a Mac, nor know anyone or anywhere that has one. :3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Synergy Posted November 25, 2009 Share Posted November 25, 2009 I made the jpegs by taking screenshots while finishing the game. I WISH it was as easy as looking at some jpegs in the game files. -S- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Dantius Posted November 25, 2009 Author Share Posted November 25, 2009 I know that Dahak has compiled the ending text for G and A 5 manually before. I was just wondering if he did it for A6, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Student of Trinity Posted November 25, 2009 Share Posted November 25, 2009 Huh — it's not hard to read the text chunks in the game executable. They're a bit jumbled together, but you can figure out what would have happened if. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Dantius Posted November 25, 2009 Author Share Posted November 25, 2009 Yeah, but I have a windows, so I can't read .dmg files. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Alorael at Large Posted November 25, 2009 Share Posted November 25, 2009 Actually, you can get software to open dmg files or convert them to ISOs. Google helps. —Alorael, who doesn't believe that the internet believes in closed formats anymore. This is the era of jailbreaking everything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unflappable Drayk Zummi Posted November 25, 2009 Share Posted November 25, 2009 Or you know, TransMac. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast The Mystic Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 Originally Posted By: Memory and Debts —Alorael, who doesn't believe that the internet believes in closed formats anymore. This is the era of jailbreaking everything. I don't think it ever did. Nearly two thirds of all the searches I've ever done has yielded at least one result that contains either a program or an article for hacking a file or website. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Alorael at Large Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 I don't mean hacking, although the internet does that too. I mean making formats accessible. No matter what you have, someone will have at least tried to come up with some other way of opening it. —Alorael, whose favorite is the .lit to HTML conversion for Mac. Microsoft makes things unhelpful, and the internet fixes it. It's a ritual. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast The Mystic Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 Originally Posted By: Memory and Debts I don't mean hacking, although the internet does that too. I mean making formats accessible. Thanks for the clarification. I also found that too, but more often the hacks. Originally Posted By: Memory and Debts Microsoft makes things unhelpful, and the internet fixes it. It's a ritual. Case in point: my recent switch from IE to Firefox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt Dahak Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 Originally Posted By: Dantius I know that Dahak has compiled the ending text for G and A 5 manually before. I was just wondering if he did it for A6, too. I've not finished the game yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk nikki. Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 Originally Posted By: Dahak I've not finished the game yet. And I just lost it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Dantius Posted November 26, 2009 Author Share Posted November 26, 2009 Curse you, Nikki. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyshakk Koan jlsgaladriel Posted December 25, 2009 Share Posted December 25, 2009 Quote: I'd like to see the other ending texts too Well, this is almost the anti-completionist ending; I tried to make whatever decisions I thought would make for the strongest Avernum. So, scourge and loyalists dead, melanchion alive, spire mayor dead but farrar alive:http://pics.livejournal.com/jlsgaladriel/pic/000abaa6/g16 I'd be interested to see a racist ending (if it's slith, nephil, dragon, vahanati, or otherwise unhuman, squash it), but I don't think I have the stomach to actually play that game. I'll probably play a completionist game myself, if only for the pleasure of killing gladwell and the challenge of killing melanchion, but I wouldn't mind seeing those screenshots if anyone has them. I do also wonder if anyone managed an ending which is even better for avernum, or if I succeeded in that task? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt Dahak Posted December 28, 2009 Share Posted December 28, 2009 So, I finally have all the ending text now. The main divergences are Melachion (# of enemies killed) & helping Gladwell. Destroying Melachion and not helping Gladwell basically sets Avernum back to the way it was, but reduced in power. Destroying Melachion and helping Gladwell has Gladwell ruling over Avernum. Not destroying Melachion but helping to defeat all his foes and not helping Gladwell is the worst ending with Meachion ruling over all. Not destroying Melachion but helping to defeat all his foes and helping Gladwell has Gladwell keeping Avernum free and on par with Melachion. Not destroying Melachion but helping to defeat the minimum # of his foes and not helping Gladwell is the basic ending with Avernum on par with Melachion. Not destroying Melachion but helping to defeat the minimum # of his foes and helping Gladwell has Gladwell ruling over Avernum and the land is chaos as it was way back in A1. Minor variations include the Abyss v. Giants, Abyss in Melachion's domain. Blight is incurable, Vahnatai stick around, Avernum remains. There are other variations (much more minor) that you can read if you PM me for the text. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyshakk Koan jlsgaladriel Posted December 29, 2009 Share Posted December 29, 2009 Dahak, does it not matter *which* two enemies one kills, or do those decisions not matter at all? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Randomizer Posted December 29, 2009 Share Posted December 29, 2009 Which two enemies are killed will change the individual texts for that enemy, but the only one that I saw a difference for was Lord Farrar in regards to whether Melanchion controls the Abyss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt Dahak Posted December 30, 2009 Share Posted December 30, 2009 Yes, but if you do Gladwell's killing of Spire mayor, Melachion's killing of Farrar, and then kill Melachion then the giants retake the Abyss. I didn't try killing just 1 Abyss ruler and Melachion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Lilith Posted December 30, 2009 Share Posted December 30, 2009 Originally Posted By: Dahak Yes, but if you do Gladwell's killing of Spire mayor, Melachion's killing of Farrar, and then kill Melachion then the giants retake the Abyss. Huh? Not when I tried it. I killed all three of them, and Spire and Bargha still ended up setting aside their differences and bringing peace to the Abyss. Did you kill the giant chief? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Randomizer Posted December 30, 2009 Share Posted December 30, 2009 I had the same thing as Thuryl so the giant chief must be the difference to allow the giant to get the Abyss. Melanchion's death means that the Abyss doesn't fall under his influence even if you kill both leaders in Spire and Bargha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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