Seasoned Roamer SacredPath_82 Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 do the benefits of Thick Skin and Good Constitution increase with levels? The bonuses seem to be pretty marginal in the beginning. I think I had a TS+GC tank in A4 once and he was nigh invulnerable no matter what the attack, but since A4 isn't as hard I prefer I high offense in that game. A5 on the other hand has monsters that pack a punch, so I'd like to use a heavy defense tank there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk Untamed Banana Slug Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 They don't increase with level, and are far inferior to many other traits that are available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice ex post slarto Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 There are traits they would be inferior to, even if none of the traits increased by level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody madrigan Posted September 9, 2009 Share Posted September 9, 2009 I've used both traits on one character in A5, and I was pretty happy with it. That plus high Endurance and Hardiness saves a lot of healing spells. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seasoned Roamer SacredPath_82 Posted September 9, 2009 Author Share Posted September 9, 2009 Originally Posted By: Guided:Voices :: Expected:Nobody There are traits they would be inferior to, even if none of the traits increased by level. they could have been worthwhile if they, too, gave increases though. A5 on Torment really has shown me what aggressive min-maxing means. I thought I was already pretty good at it from previous games, but I've never been that stingy with point/trait allocation before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyshakk Koan Sss-Chah Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 i usually use at least one of the two on my first guy in each game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt Erebus the Black Posted September 12, 2009 Share Posted September 12, 2009 However, how would you explain it? getting beat up makes a tough hide tougher, not less tough? growing in level makes a humanoid with good constitution have better constitution due to extreme exposure to poisons and toxins (and not to forget the most important ingredient: getting beat up)? I'm not mocking you, it just would be interesting to hear how you could reason this out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seasoned Roamer SacredPath_82 Posted September 12, 2009 Author Share Posted September 12, 2009 Originally Posted By: avatar42 getting beat up makes a tough hide tougher, not less tough? it can at least make you less receptible to shock from being beaten (you can see that in a professional boxer vs. beginning boxer). Also, your bones may have become thicker during adventuring due to mineralization, because you're carrying/ swinging heavy stuff. Weight training has that effect too. Quote: growing in level makes a humanoid with good constitution have better constitution due to extreme exposure to poisons and toxins for example not that I see the need to "explain" things like this (or how being "divinely touched" makes you an ever better archer, fighter and mage) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt Erebus the Black Posted September 12, 2009 Share Posted September 12, 2009 Originally Posted By: SacredPath_82 for example not that I see the need to "explain" things like this (or how being "divinely touched" makes you an ever better archer, fighter and mage) see hercules Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Alorael at Large Posted September 12, 2009 Share Posted September 12, 2009 Come up with a reasonable explanation for the mechanics of levels and an explanation for Thick Skin and Good Constitution shouldn't be too hard. It's the first part that's a challenge. —Alorael, who thinks the traits are just supposed to scale with level because, apparently, adventurers scale with levels in most ways. Because. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seasoned Roamer SacredPath_82 Posted September 13, 2009 Author Share Posted September 13, 2009 Originally Posted By: Komemnoration Come up with a reasonable explanation for the mechanics of levels and an explanation for Thick Skin and Good Constitution shouldn't be too hard. It's the first part that's a challenge. —Alorael, who thinks the traits are just supposed to scale with level because, apparently, adventurers scale with levels in most ways. Because. I don't think levels is that hard to explain. The more you adventure (work out), the stronger, tougher (endurance) and faster (dexterity) you become. Also, skills do improve with practice in rl. I think the thing that's hardest to explain about RPGs (besides magic) is HP (life energy). Oh, I just got stabbed in the guts with an iron lance repeatedly... but never mind I still have 4 HP left so let's get going O_o Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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