Garrulous Glaahk Tarson Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 As I was taking my A4 party through the tunnel next to Almaria I thought of camp samuels but chose to go to the Castle instead. After beating a4 I started up a2 and found out that camp samuels is on the other side of Almaria in Avernum 1/2 then in 4. I dont think i have seen a topic on this before. Is the A1-2 right or a4? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unflappable Drayk Toby-Linn Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 Yeah it mysteriously moved from one side of the river to the other in between A2 and A4. I think because Almaria is closed when you first get there, Jeff needed another town for the adventurers to go to. Or maybe he just forgot where he had left it previously. You can't really say which is right and which is wrong, because the same guy did both games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk Tarson Posted April 15, 2009 Author Share Posted April 15, 2009 Is camp samuels on the tower colony side or the castle side of Almaria for Avernum 5, if you can even go there? I wouldnt know as i have not paid for the full a5 game yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unflappable Drayk Toby-Linn Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 You can't go to Camp Samuels in A5, it starts in the formerly giant controlled lands that were right beside the Abyss. In fact one of the main towns there is called New Harston (remember in A2 that Harston was one of the Empire Towns your adventurers could visit?) Than you go up to the Northern Islands (where Aimee lived in A2) and after that section it's all new territory. Oddly enough, while looking at the Avernum Annotated Maps I saw that Pyrog's lair was in that area in A1. I don't remember seeing it in A5, but I'll have to check. That would have been a cool addition if it's not there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyshakk Koan Sss-Chah Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 well, it is camp samuels. maybe they just felt like moving it to the other side of the river after awhile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast The Mystic Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 Originally Posted By: Toby-Linn Oddly enough, while looking at the Avernum Annotated Maps I saw that Pyrog's lair was in that area in A1. I don't remember seeing it in A5, but I'll have to check. That would have been a cool addition if it's not there. I also remember it being turned into an Empire fortress in A2. Maybe it was destroyed after the war, and if it was, I don't recall finding any ruins of it in A5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Earth Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 Originally Posted By: The Mystic I also remember it being turned into an Empire fortress in A2. Maybe it was destroyed after the war, and if it was, I don't recall finding any ruins of it in A5. If there were any ruins those have been most likely reused to build other buildings. I think many places have moved since 1st Avernum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice ex post slarto Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 I believe Pyrog's caves / Pyrog Labs appeared in A4, as a series of caves that had been retaken by giants. I might be mixing caves up though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unflappable Drayk Toby-Linn Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 Originally Posted By: The Mystic I also remember it being turned into an Empire fortress in A2. Maybe it was destroyed after the war, and if it was, I don't recall finding any ruins of it in A5. Just checked with an old save game of A5 and no, it's not there. There are just some twisty passages that have piles of rocks in them, so much that the passage is blocked and you can't proceed further. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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