Cryolemon

I seem to remember that the description for the luck stat includes something like "Other more subtle effects". What are these effects, if anything?

Originally Posted By: Celtic Minstrel As long as it's not used against you! I'm not sure I've ever seen an enemy use sleep cloud. Are there any that do? (I presume enemy mages can, but it doesn't seem common).

Originally Posted By: The Mystic Originally Posted By: Cryolemon Summoned monsters themselves shouldn't be able to summon more monsters. Yes, that would be nice. A wizard that summons demons is bad enough, but when you have a wizard that summons demons that summon mages that summon mauve slimes... The problem is how easy that would be to do. It seems like it should just be a matter of adding a flag to each monster to check whether it's summoned or not, and if it is disallowing it from casting summon spells. Of course, given the code that could be easier said than done.

Originally Posted By: Miramor Sylae: I think that's fixed in the latest OBoE, you can't be taken down to less than one AP by webs. Mystic: Making monsters prefer damaging instead of summoning spells would probably get rid of a lot of problems, yeah. I think I might have suggested it at one point. Personally I'm in favor of just removing Weak, Medium, and Strong Summoning (and also Summon Spirit, Sticks to Snakes, Summon Host, and any other kind of weak summoning) from the monster repertoire. I think monsters do still need to be able to summon, but I suppose the mechanism could be changed so you don't get stupid amounts of monsters summoned. Summoned monsters themselves shouldn't be able to summon more monsters.

Definitely, but I think for the most part people don't use lockpicking or archery very much. Mainly because archery and thrown weapons are pretty useless, and everyone starts out with the unlock spell (has anyone tried to make a party with NO magic?).

Originally Posted By: Thaluikhain Hmmm...maybe it's because they spend points on less than useful things like lock picking, archery and thrown weapons, instead of worthwhile things. Well, it would seem that the points are spent in those things in addition to the "worthwhile" things.

Originally Posted By: Thaluikhain Originally Posted By: Lilith You can begin with even more skill points to spend on spell levels by starting with the pre-generated party and taking all their stats down to 0 instead of just deleting and replacing them, but at that point you're basically cheating and you may as well just use the character editor. Hey? The pre-generated party costs more to create than what you're given? Yeah, not sure why, but they do.

I'm personally against keeping an inherently unbalanced system solely for legacy reasons. Obviously you would have to keep compatibility as far as possible, but the idea of updating the scenarios, or at the very least adding a flag that a scenario is a legacy scenario would be a good idea.

Originally Posted By: BainIhrno How about for waveblade/razordisk advantages, make an option for item trait "Vahnatai weapon" (similar to magical/cursed/always identified) meaning Vahnatai would have bonuses using them. I don't know, that may be a bit too far fetched. That would be cool if maybe you included other possibilities as well (eg: "Giant Weapon", "Nephil Weapon", "Slith Weapon").

I've played Exile 2 on a Windows 7 PC (admittedly E2 was run from a flash drive, but that shouldn't make a difference).

Originally Posted By: Celtic Minstrel Originally Posted By: Cryolemon Wouldn't having an "immune to capture soul" ability be a better way of doing that? Yes, yes it would. Adding "capture soul" to the regular immunities (along with poison, cold, fire, and magic) would be better still, and that's most likely what I would do. That definitely make sense. Originally Posted By: Thaluikhain Might also be cool to have creatures designated as being more vulnerable to certain things as well. I agree with that too. It would as has been said allow for more characterful monsters.

Originally Posted By: Celtic Minstrel Ah yes, Important is immune to Capture Soul; I remember reading that somewhere. Wouldn't having an "immune to capture soul" ability be a better way of doing that?

Originally Posted By: Thaluikhain Originally Posted By: SkeleTony Goblin PCs could be a cut above the goblins one encounters as enemies in scenarios. For example allowing PCs to select one of several possible 'mutations'(extra arms, fluctuating attributes, etc.). There are infinite ways to make ANY species an interesting playable race. Oh, that might be cool...extra traits available, or maybe even different points/gold cost to train in certain skills, maybe with some flat out restriction (though that's getting a bit complicated). It would be complicated, but it would be very cool to have.

Ogre's as PC's would be very interesting.

Originally Posted By: CRISIS on INFINITE SLARTIES The simple set of corresponding bonuses for Vahnatai, presumably, would be +2 to starting Intelligence, +1 to starting Dexterity, and +10% to hit when using Wave Blades or Razordisks. That makes sense, unless we are going to completely revisit how racial advantages are balanced, which may be 1) a lot of work, and 2) not desirable.

Originally Posted By: Thaluikhain Vahnatai PCs? Hmmm...would be interesting to have a PC race which had disadvantages, not just humans with bonuses. What sort of graphics would be needed? I mean, is there a distinction between male and female nephils, do the different colours mean anything, should nephul PCs wear clothes (my graphics do, but the original ones set the precedent of not doing so) and so on? This probably isn't the best thread, but what advantages and disadvantages would you suggest for Vahnatai PC's? Presumably some form of natural "Magically Apt" as an advantage, and maybe less HP / not as strong as disadvantages?

Originally Posted By: CRISIS on INFINITE SLARTIES The real answer is that pants did not exist in Exile 1 and 2. It was just assumed that you wore pants, and other items of clothing. I'm not sure why Jeff changed this in Exile 3. However, since that part of the character creation code did not change, nobody starts with pants. Perhaps this part of the character creation code could be changed! /is not entirely serious...

Originally Posted By: cfgauss Were they all banished for streaking? I'm guessing some of them were!

I'm not sure there is any reason for the 256 + 256 character limit, assuming it hasn't been removed already.

Originally Posted By: Celtic Minstrel Originally Posted By: Rick Abel Fan Coincidence? I think not. You have reason to believe it's not a coincidence? Personally, I think it's a coincidence. Once is chance, twice is co-incidence and three times is enemy action.

Aren't any graphics that appear in previous exile games (whether or not they appear in BOE) still restricted though?

For some reason the second question gave me the thought of an increasingly angry dragon stuck on a conveyor loop lol

Originally Posted By: Necrophilius Originally Posted By: Celtic Minstrel Only if you use Windows. I use doors... I make a better door than a window.

Originally Posted By: Thuryl ...unless we actually get the go-ahead to distribute the Exile series for free outright. And that seems unlikely.

Originally Posted By: King InuYasha If it doesn't match what the file is for an unregistered version, it's likely to be registered, so that's all that has really has to be done then. The only problem there is that someone with a hex editor could just alter one byte of the shareware file to get around registering. You have to make sure it matches the registered misc.dat