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Originally Posted By: Doom Warrior I voted Ghaldring, since I would want my side to win, and completely win. Usually, it is unlikely that two opposing sides would hold any kind of peace for too long, before tensions began to rebuild and the fighting restarted. If I thought that peace would be easier, then I definitely would go for Astoria, but I do think that the best way to win is to control your enemy, not to make a shaky peace with. There are exceptions for that, but generally making a peace that says that some formerly in war countries will suddenly stop fighting, and act almost as if there wasn't a war, well, I think that that would be difficult. If an opposing country offered up some kind of surrender, however, then I would probably except that, to, instead of trying to destroy them. Yes, you have just stated rather eloquently why I lean towards the Taker/Ghaldring factions. Allowing the Shapers to continue existing as a dominant force is a shaky prospect. Individuals like Astoria might support creation emancipation, but it is suggested that she is opposed by the majority of the Shaper sect. What is to guarantee that another Taygen or Alwan won't garner support in the next decade or two? Click to reveal.. In hindsight, the Astorian ending suggests that the peace holds, but during the game you don't know this. So the most reasonable course of action is to beat your enemy into submission. There is your enemy, now go and destroy it, obliterate it, so that it will never again threaten you. Which is consistent with the philosophy of most drakons and some serviles. Click to reveal.. That's why I just love playing through the Ghaldring ending, as you get to smash the enemy once and for all. Confronting the four key Shapers in their lairs and putting them to the sword (or in my case, a War Trall stone). Then storming the Shaper Citadel with Akhari Blaze like avenging angels and smashing the Shaper Council. Followed by the Drakon army killing their way through Shaper lands (hell, they are even described as a juggernaut in the ending text!) And finally, when the Drakons become to big for the boots, the human-servile alliance kill them too! Just beautiful.

Originally Posted By: Dikiyoba The health draining was probably just due to the gloves, then, though the sword's curse effect should still have activated even with the gloves on. Are you sure it didn't? Dikiyoba. I don't remember seeing a curse effect, but I can't say with 100% certainty that there wasn't one. But I can say with 100% certainty that when I tested the Frozen Blade (while the Thirsting Gauntlets were equipped) against my creations in the Repository, my health was drained.

Originally Posted By: XxAzerothxX I find the Trakovites the most like my own. The funny thing is that the Trakovites are indisputably right in their claims, at least from what we observe from the Geneforge series. Shaping does apparently cause far more harm than good. All the good Shaping can do is undone by one nutcase. It also seems that Shaping has a way of corrupting those who use it, with even those who don't engage in self-shaping seem to be arrogant and have little regard for life. I guess if you're going to Shape life to fight and die at your whim, you need to desensitise yourself to the suffering of living beings. But personally, I prioritize the freedom of the individual to do what they wish, as long as they don't cause harm to others. Outlawing an art because it has the potential to cause great harm seems like an infringement on civil liberties, which doesn't sit right with me. For example, you could impose a 9pm curfew and lower crime significantly, reducing loss of life and property. But would you want to?

OK, now this is weird. I was wearing Vampiric Gloves when I previously tested the Frozen Blade. I removed them, and now the Frozen Blade is cursing on every strike. There is no drain effect whatsoever? I'd rather have a Curse effect than a Drain effect, so whatever.

Vote and discuss!

Wow, sweet list Randomizer. Thanks for that!

Every sapient being is responsible for its own action, so you could argue that the Rebels are primarily responsible for the Rebellion, and I'd agree. But then you'd need to ask yourself: Is rebellion a justifiable and reasonable response to Shaper oppression? If you were in the shoes of a servile or drayk in Shaper lands, would you respond with rebellion? I sure as hell would. It always amazes me that some individuals can wholeheartedly support the Shaper regime when they engage in activities which would have governments placed on trial for war crimes in real life, and condemn the response of oppressed creations when slavery is universally regarded as an abomination at present.

Yes, sorry, I got mixed up between the item's actual name and the 'Draining Blade' in the item's description.

I'm currently running a Warrior through Geneforge 5, and was tossing up between the Charmed Falchion and the Frozen Blade. I equipping the Frozen Blade and used it against my creations to test how much health it drains, and found that it drains a huge chunk (approximately 30 hit points) of health. MY HEALTH! What the hell?! Is the Frozen Blade meant to drain your own health, or is it a bug with the game? If so, is the bug specific to my game. Guess I'll be sticking with the Charmed Falchion!

I'm currently running a Warrior through Geneforge 5, and was tossing up between the Charmed Falchion and the Draining Blade. I equipping the Draining Blade and used it against my creations to test how much health it drains, and found that it drains a huge chunk (approximately 30 hit points) of health. MY HEALTH! What the hell?! Is the Draining Blade meant to drain your own health, or is it a bug with the game? If so, is the bug specific to my game. Guess I'll be sticking with the Charmed Falchion! Edit: Whoops, I didn't notice the separate subforum for Geneforge 5. My bad.