Garrulous Glaahk wackypanda Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 What effect does killing the Dhorl Stead runners and/or the Duke have on the rebel ending? I spared the runners and killed the Duke on my first (loyalist) playthrough, so if there is no significant effect I would do the opposite on my second playthrough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Lilith Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 Sparing or killing Duke Gryfyn adds like one extra line of text either way -- it's mostly important to kill him on a loyalist playthrough, since it's one of the factors that determines whether you can become a Heart of Avadon at the end. I don't think what you do at Dhorl Stead makes a difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Randomizer Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 Dhorl Stead adds a line about some survivors, but doesn't make much difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody The Reverend Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 Sparing the runners does make the ending better for Dhorl Stead, so if you care about that, spare them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk wackypanda Posted July 16, 2013 Author Share Posted July 16, 2013 Random thoughts: the people telling you to overthrow Redbeard seem to be approaching from wildly different angles. On one hand you have the Tawon Empire and its lackeys, who would rather that the Pact not exist at all. If I were this type of rebel, becoming Keeper would be a prelude to welcoming the new Tawon overlords. On the other hand you have people like Miranda who tell you that Redbeard is too tyrannical to protect the people of the Pact (implying that Avadon is intended to serve this purpose and that you as Keeper can do it better). If I were this type of rebel I would show mercy where I can, while still maintaining the Stone Wall (which would mean killing the Duke, which the rebels keep telling you not to do). Or maybe I just want the big chair for myself, in which case it will not do to have any of these rebels hanging about. I find it interesting that there are so many possible reasons for overthrowing Redbeard, yet none of them would satisfy the rebels completely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Lilith Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 You can actually express your motivations for overthrowing Redbeard by choosing specific dialogue options when you fight him, and the ending will reflect your choices to some degree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Randomizer Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 There are two main versions of you becoming Keeper. One is a Rebel that plans to destroy from within. The other is a new Redbeard that will rebuild and destroy the Rebels. The other decisions you've made up until this point give the remaining texts. Personally I like to see how mad you can make Redbeard by telling him you know the answers and are withholding them. Then give in at the end to become a Heart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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