Fledgling Fyora Metal Slime Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 I can't seem to find this info anywhere - has anyone figured out what bonuses to blessings and curses actually do? I stacked them on my shaman without really thinking about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Slawbug Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 They increase the duration of blessings and curses she casts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Lilith Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 They give you a chance to increase the duration of any blessings and curses (basically, the vast majority of status effects) you cast. They don't increase the effectiveness of those blessings and curses, so they're not really all that much of a benefit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Slawbug Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 I believe it's actually not a chance, it's a definite effect -- but because the % bonuses are often small, and the durations of blessings and curses are also small, the bonus you get may be rounded down to zero until you stack a few % bonuses together, or cast a longer-lasting spell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk JamesMighty Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 So, to sum it up, its probably not worth it to increase it in your Stat tree or buy an item to increase the effect Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Slawbug Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 It can be useful, depending on your build. Given that Avadon only lets you use abilities every so often, you can't just renew buffs whenever they fade. And since some of the default durations are fairly short, adding an extra round or two can make a real difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fledgling Fyora Metal Slime Posted July 6, 2012 Author Share Posted July 6, 2012 Interesting. At the moment I'm mostly curious for my solo running shadowwalker. Would this apply to the 2 turns of battle frenzy I get when I'm struck? Or only actively cast spells? If so, how much of a percentage boost in blessings / curses would I need to stack on in equipment to get a third turn? 50%? Seems *maybe* impossible? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Slawbug Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 Probably 50%. May be impossible, probably not worth it even if it is possible. Not sure if it would apply to that Battle Frenzy, but I'd *guess* so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Lilith Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 Originally Posted By: HOUSE of S I believe it's actually not a chance, it's a definite effect -- but because the % bonuses are often small, and the durations of blessings and curses are also small, the bonus you get may be rounded down to zero until you stack a few % bonuses together, or cast a longer-lasting spell. I think there must be a random element involved, because I've seen the same buff have different durations when cast twice by the same caster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Slawbug Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 Are you sure the random element isn't involved in the original buff duration, rather than the %? (I could also be wrong.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Lilith Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 It could easily be both, couldn't it? I mean, when 90% of buffs don't even last more than 10 rounds in the first place, an item that gives 8% to buff duration doesn't make sense if there's no randomness involved in its effectiveness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk JamesMighty Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 Ive been testing this with my shamans and it seems the random element is in both. Its been brief testing so I could be wrong. Will continue testing tomorrow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Slawbug Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 Originally Posted By: Lilith It could easily be both, couldn't it? I mean, when 90% of buffs don't even last more than 10 rounds in the first place, an item that gives 8% to buff duration doesn't make sense if there's no randomness involved in its effectiveness. Let's remember that A4 introduced a host of equipment that reduced damage by 1% even though most damage for the better part of the game was not high enough to notice 1%. Actually, that brings up a good point that the same random-granule activation system could be used for this, as you proposed long ago for damage blocking. Anyway, it could certainly be both. However, it would be difficult to tell apart both being random, from just the initial duration being random, without a huge data set. A:EFTP seems to have set durations for blessings, and they do not seem to become random with a blessing bonus of 25%, at least, from what I saw. That makes me suspicious that any randomness in Avadon is on the spell end, rather than the % end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Lilith Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 Originally Posted By: HOUSE of S A:EFTP seems to have set durations for blessings, and they do not seem to become random with a blessing bonus of 25%, at least, from what I saw. That makes me suspicious that any randomness in Avadon is on the spell end, rather than the % end. I've seen the Battle Frenzy effect from Haste have a duration of anything from 1 to 5 rounds at the time of casting. It can even be different for different characters in the same party after a single casting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Slawbug Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 Okay, I just tested. Apparently, I'm crazy, and there IS always a random element, even in A:EFTP. Whoops. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Earth Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 yea, few times I have needed to re-buff after 2nd round and haste is even worse, many times I have re-hasted party after 1st round, battle frenzy seems to last all rounds it says (at least enemies bf lasts long time). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk JamesMighty Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 there must be multiple random elements for you, your skills, your other characters, your other characters skill, enemies and enemy skills as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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