Lowbacca

Sometimes it is unbelievably easy forme. Other times, I'm like what the heck?! Like, I'll just get powned constantly. Other times, ill be beating the crap out of everything. I usually have a harder time towards middle-end. Beginning is easy. Pending if I do all quests, the ending isnt too difficult.

Well, a mentally retarded person may not understand the consequences of their own actions. Im not trying tobe mean or anything, from what i understand of them, from many people's experiences, many of them can't comprehend that everything has consequences. Are they unintelligent? They're smarter than a dolphin, which is considered self aware, therefor are the 3rd most intelligent species on the planet.

Lol, yeah your right. Maybe I AM a noob! Lol. Yeah i didnt see that actually. And, like i said, i could give a hoot if someone double posts. Anyhew. Oh, and what i meant by no allies, is that both greta and alwan left me. I hate them! Lol. Ok im done

How did what happen? be more specific. And dont double post. Use the edit button. I dont care, but someone else will, ive read alot of these forums in past years, and someone always gets munched out. Lol.

Lol. I understand your point about the souls. Many if not most leading religions pointto the argument that humans have something more over animals, other than intelligence. Also, They could make a fyora that talked. All they really need to do is a bit of experementing. Im just making assumptions. If they made drakes in the first place through trial and error, they could easily make the lower level creations smarter. Would that somehow make the fyora special compared to the dumb ones? And your point about freewill and making decisions, you dont need to be able to speak or be intelligent to make a decision. Example, my dog is fat. She eats too much. She made that decision. To overeat. So, why are the other dogs not overeating? Are they smarter? Or dumber? Is she fat cuz shes dumb, or smart? My friend is real fat, he also eats much. He can talk and function mostly, except run. Lol, where am i going with this? I forgot. I'm losing it!

A common thing among people, are to judge the level of importance, is by the level or degree of intelligence. or how much they look like people. However, what creations lack, are souls. Humans have souls. Which makes us a priority. But, evil people harm other people, so we eliminate them. So, if shapers think the rouges dangerous, they must be killed/removed/destroyed. however, non-shapers dont make the same distinctions and lines. They think creations are cute and cuddly and want them alive, even if they endanger humans. Ok, i forgot where i was going but, im done now.

Ah! The 1st two games i liked awakened. Which are rebels i suppose. Cuz i like serviles. But the 3rd one...idk. I was helping the rebels at first, i got them that canister or whatever to make him strong. Then i ended helping the loyalists cuz i fought the rouges with them. So, i ended up with no allies, and i wanted to choose one or the other. Soo...i chose loyals, cuz i hate drakons! Theyre not nice and mean and they hurt the innocent, and i liked the ending i got from the game. Lol, i base if i like them off the drawings and pictures. Which were neat. Good material if you guys are into art

Yeah, i like the system as is. Except...it would be neat if after a cetain level of Leadership you can recruit/create an extra ally. Just an idea.

Quote: Originally written by *i: Quote: Uuummm. Im not really new to this board. Relative or otherwise. Lol. Even though you are number six and im number like 10,000. I'm not in any way new. to this forum or game. And I wasnt being sexist. I was assumin you were female. I'm slightly sorrowful to you if you arent. i wasnt trying to be mean to a large majority of people. Im rather fond of females. And i wasnt telling anyone to leave, twas merely a suggestion that if you dont like the games, then why talk about it? Lol. And I also was just debating about the moralities of the game. I like debating. Im decent at it. Not great, but i dont suck either. Now, me replying to your reply, is just defensive, because it seems i offended you in some minor way. Wow, you need some tougher skin. Lol, I'm light hearted, so please dont feel the need of being offended at every other remark. And dont think i dont like you either. I like everybody, just some more than others, lol. Ok, im done now. Bubye. Personally I don't care one way or another. Your response partially violated the Code of Conduct, not seriously, but enough. I just want it to be clear that posts like that (especially telling members to leave) will not be tolerated, period. Lol,i didnt tell anyone to leave. I said they should if they didnt like it. I was slightly annoyed because whoever was debating, they were passing the line between debate and arguing. And both were being extreme in there reactions to each other. And they were doing so in a way that reminded me of my sisters, im not being mean, or trying to be sexist, it literally did. Oh well, i guess this is where liberals become conservative in sort of "politically correct" doggy doo im tired of hearing about. Anyways, i guess you are correct that i did cross the line in wanting others to leave, no matter the excuse. Alright, no matter, have a nice day!

Quote: Originally written by *i: Quote: Originally written by Lowbacca: Wow. Ok. Hows about, you 2 girls stop arguing? kay? Holy Crap. This forum is for talking about the games. Im assuming you both like geneforge, and if you dont like it, then you should leave. And dont be offended by another person you dont even know. It implies that you are immature. And having all CAPS, isnt yelling. If you have all caps AND an "!",then that would be an implication of yelling. 1) Read up on nettiquette, many versions of using CAPS is yelling. We expect our members to follow these rules. 2) Your sexist remarks will not be tolerated. 3) You are not a moderator, we'll worry about the acceptable bounds of discussion. 4) The Geneforge plotline is inherently tied to the morality of the decisions you make and are open for debate, as such the discussion is definitely within fair game. 5) Don't come into this community, a relative newbie, and start preaching and especially telling people to leave the board that you are new to. Uuummm. Im not really new to this board. Relative or otherwise. Lol. Even though you are number six and im number like 10,000. I'm not in any way new. to this forum or game. And I wasnt being sexist. I was assumin you were female. I'm slightly sorrowful to you if you arent. i wasnt trying to be mean to a large majority of people. Im rather fond of females. And i wasnt telling anyone to leave, twas merely a suggestion that if you dont like the games, then why talk about it? Lol. And I also was just debating about the moralities of the game. I like debating. Im decent at it. Not great, but i dont suck either. Now, me replying to your reply, is just defensive, because it seems i offended you in some minor way. Wow, you need some tougher skin. Lol, I'm light hearted, so please dont feel the need of being offended at every other remark. And dont think i dont like you either. I like everybody, just some more than others, lol. Ok, im done now. Bubye. Or not. quote:This is, by the way, analogous to another question: if there is a god like the Christian God, and if He did create us, are we by the very act of creation therefore obligated to serve Him, or must there be some other justification in addition? Ultimately, the answer to that question, I feel, is that there would have to be an additional reason, namely that God's commands are inherently good, since gratitude for creation (or whatever) is not by itself sufficient to make us slaves. IF such a being existed, we wouldn't be obligated to obey it, but then again it wouldn't be obligated not to wipe us out of existence either. I fail to see how a creator is obligated in any way go out of its way to attend every need and want of its creations. Making creations that can enjoy their own thoughts and have a free existence is a waste of time and energy. It's either make serviles or use children to mine and cut lumber until they're old and infirm. What choice would you make? now on to you two. I myself am a Christian. The reason God created Adam was to look after the animals. As such, would BE an act of service. (NO, im not yelling, its just easier to use caps then to use italics). However, he was givin free will, and im sure you guys know the whole story, if not, Read Genesis, its a good book to start off with. Also, Godis a being of Love and understanding. He doesnt punish to be mean. And rewards good effort.And the reason God made everything, is because he was lonely. o to speak, and probly bored. Anyhew...If i made creations, i wouldnt feel obligated to give them their needs, I'd WANT to. Why wouldnt i? Suffering isnt a pretty thing in the least. And the only reason having its own thoughts might be dangerous to ME, is if i were mean to it, and if i appeared lazy. Which i wouldnt be. quote:Originally written by Lowbacca: And, there arent any such things AS self aware robots. They dont EXIST. Its all in your imagination. The're having problems with robots serving DRINKS, much less being aware of themselves. Please look up the word "hypothetical" in a dictionary and don't come back until you know what it means. Hypothetical-Theoretical, suppositional, conditional, contingent. Happy? I was just trying to point out that its too hard to compare the two, for the simple case that one never has or will exist. I think, i typed a few days ago, or yesterday i cant remember, anyways, i cant be sure why i pointed it out but anyway. IM DONE! BYE!

Yay, i like this topic. I usually play as a shaper. Having more than 5 creations is kind of annoying though. It kind of depends on the situation, either having a couple powerful or many weaker creations. Sometimes i make a battle alpha or a thaud, just for a meat shield. Um, as for equipment. I usually use equipment that increases intelligence and creation stats. Why have equipment that increases stats ona shper that you dont use? In battle i bless and heal almost the whole time. I usually keep around 1/3-1/6 the essence so that i can do that. Else youd be pressing "shift-d=rechargme" constantly. Ok im done now. And long range creations in my opinion are better than melee ones. Opinions anyone?

Wow. Ok. Hows about, you 2 girls stop arguing? kay? Holy Crap. This forum is for talking about the games. Im assuming you both like geneforge, and if you dont like it, then you should leave. And dont be offended by another person you dont even know. It implies that you are immature. And having all CAPS, isnt yelling. If you have all caps AND an "!",then that would be an implication of yelling. And you cant compare the creatures and humans with machines. there are major differences. First, machines dont have a soul. Secondly, a machine cant formulate there own morals and behavior. They are based upon the template the creator made for it. much like how God made the templte for our personalities. And, there arent any such things AS self aware robots. They dont EXIST. Its all in your imagination. The're having problems with robots serving DRINKS, much less being aware of themselves. Alright. I think im done now. Bubye. Oh wait. i was playing GF3, and both greta AND alwan left me. Alwan died constantly so i cared not so much, but greta actually did well. Probly cuz i started off as a rebel then turned into a loyalist. Because the head of the rebels are crazy drakons, which i dont like at all, 'cept for the one you trade with on the last island hes cool. Oh, and some shapers are the heads but they are just power hungry. And im just doing what i think is right, and killing the rogues seem right, because they are hurting innocent people. Sure i feel sry for the serviles, but they shouldnt have gone along with the crappy drakons and power hungry x-shapers. Alright, NOW im done. Bubye

Um. I played GF2 and I loved it. So I trid al the Avernum games. And I disliked them with great contempt. I didnt like the story or gameplay or anything. Geneforge I think is way cooler. Of course, I'm a newer player...But still. Anyways,i think im done now bubye

I like drayks....

Quote: Originally written by MagmaDrakoon: [Just curious - they can be shaped by the player? And all the other, strange creations (like "energized Artila", "Oozing Thand", etc...)... You would like to be able to shape them?] [...!] What an idea! What about change the shaping-creation system? Instead of simply click-and-shape what about a mini-game? Something like a logic-game: put all genes in correct order to obtain normal creation, or try to change genes positions for amazing effects! Maybe, you can still shape normally during travelling, but if you go in a shaper lab, with adeguate skills (here another function for shaping skills!)/equipment (resarch notes, shaping equipment or other) you can try to create something new! And if you make something good you can choice to "record" (maybe the "records" can be limited, or maybe you need some rare items) it and being able to shape it during traveling! Maybe you can discover secret creations! And maybe make them strong or special by using items on them during shaping! Man, maybe you can be able to shape a new pack-creation or a creation-humanoid that can use equipment... And new quests like: "Shape a secret weapon"... Comments? Hmmm... Actually, you create creations by precise movements of the body...I would know, ive played GF2 way too much. At the beginning, if youre a shaper, Shanti teaches you how to create an Artilla...By a series of hand gestures and movements... So, you really dont use and comprehend the complexions of genes, you just DO it. Sooo, yeah. Cya Later Ladies

I usually Name mine Poopy first time through... Just like every other game. Then I name the next character Lowbacca, from Star Wars. Cuz he's freakin sweet. Then, I name my Artila Weiner, cuz it just fits. Then, I give Fyora an Indian kinda name, like SharpTooth. And for Masculine ones, like Thaud, I give them dumb names. Like Caveman, or Osama. Ok,Im done. Bubye.

I wanna be able to have creations do different attacks. I love Fyoras, but all they have is firebolt. At least have the ability to teach them one or two extra attacks. Oh, and a magic creation that heals other creations, that would be amazing. And please dont add things from Avernum. I play Geneforge, cuz I like the game play, and I no likey Avernum, because of the game play... Anyway, I'm a huge fan, love the Geneforge Series. C ya'll laters