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Don't worry much if you won't find it. I know, is for a quest, but you'll found plenty of them later. EDIT: Typos.

Side note: Also in GF2 you can use only six canister before became "mad"?

I don't think that you can really do this without cheating. Thus, I think no difference. I killed Shanti in GF2 before the Barzites caught her and nothing change. Hey, I was trying to save her!

I'm starting to think that the promblem cannot be solved... Smart serviles are smart enough to understand what freedom is, but the dumb ones can't even understand what freedom is, because they are... dumb. Then, if we could shape a smart servile from a dumb one, he surely want freedom, because he can think about/what is it, though when he was dumb he only wanted to work, and the prespective of freedom scares him. Sure, we can make all serviles free, but the dumb ones will never be happy... So, what the solution can be?

Quote: Originally written by Your ad could be here- contact me.: What gives humans the right to command and destroy creations? The desire of unlimited powers? EDIT: Or the desire of have a slave?

First Choice: No. The Geneforge Area would be the last one (or, why not, the first. You are a Rebel, right? You can use it to be able to shape though, not to gain godlike powers) exploring area in the game; so, who need god power at that point? Second Choice: Yes. I think this will be the last chapter with the old-chief. Maybe YOU will be the master chief when you kill it (Rebel Ending, very opened to GF5, since you will decide how to rule your new empire) or simply slay it for the Shapers (Loyal Ending). Third Choice: No. As Jeff said, no Awanaked in GF4, so I don't bother myself to think about this. Fourth Choice: Yes. Not like a regular cration, though. Like a quest: find correct reciper an make your own, personalized demon/golem/mechanical creation or golem that travel with you like Alwan or Greta (so he cannot die forever, at least). Fiveth-Sixth Choice: Why not? But be aware: one exclude the other. A super creation, OR a super artifact. Not both. Maybe the super creation would be an exclusive creation that grow stronger and different during the game; and the artifact a sword/armor (choosed at benginning) that grow his power when you slain bosses/during the game. Seventh Choice: Uhmm... But how many person count the Council? I really don't know that, maybe this can be another Rebel ending when you rest Loyal at your current master, Ghaldring. Eighth Choice: Definitly. Darian MUST DIE THIS TIME!, so he/she stop to change gender/sex ( ). EDIT: This is the longest reply that I ever wrote.

What GF you are talking about? Anyway, you can see the max stats by using the editor -- max my skills.

Quote: Originally written by Zeviz: So most discussion centers around strategies and phylosophycal question, and there is only so much you can talk about those things before exhausting the topics. Someone has already opened a topic like: "Control the life you create: is moral or not"?

Wonderful, now I know the end of GF1.

I think you have to keep same-kind creation until the message appear (i.e. all ornks).

Uhm... I don't know, maybe try to start a new game and call your character "Jeff Vogel". You'll never know...

What hidden message? When you take all creations of the same kind?

Quote: Originally written by Dikiyoba: Dikiyoba usually casts terror on the hostile non-combatants, like the serviles and spies in Barzite lands. It usually kills them, but Dikiyoba can pretend that they just ran off. You you don't just Daze/Dominate them? Ah, EXP.

Agreed. And BoA keep occupied a lot of community members for make new scenarios.

Well, we are talking about human children, but the rogues children? Expecially for a Rebel, this should be important. Examples: the baby Clawbugs in GF2, with the mother; or the baby Dryak in GF3, again with a CryoDryak mother. Killing them is immoral? The Clawbugs are innocent (they don't attack you) and the Dryak are intelligent.

Quote: Originally written by Randomizer: I don't think Jeff will add a teleportation spell because it would allow you to bypass his minefields. He is supposed to make them more interesting in GF4. Good point. The spell could be used only on items. to teleport them in a friendly city -- maybe in a room for this purpose. This was the idea of Student of Trinity, right?

Oh well. I think is a genocide killing people who haven't weapons and cannot defend ourselves in a good way -- normal people, thant don't have even an armor and attack you with fists.

Quote: Originally written by Little Billy Sue: ...Apparently genocide of every living thing isn't as bad as killing one child. Is sarcasm, or you think it really?

Yes, we were talking about on the topic Wow! (GF4).

You cannot miss the tunnel -- you need to pass trough if you want to proceed. I think the area name is "Secret Tunnel".

I totally agree with ThirdParty. If the Council will change, Shapers Empire can have a chance, IMHO.

Actually, there is another problem about the items, though... Even if we could have a pack creation, where we can put in safety your items? Could we need a stash where we can put them in any order?

Quote: Originally written by Student of Trinity: Maybe the Shapers are just doomed, by now, the time in which they might have steered their society straighter having passed centuries ago. This would be the answer to the question: "Why GF4's subtitle is Rebellion?"

Quote: Originally written by Student of Trinity: New creation in G6, by popular demand: Annihilation Vlish This creation floats ahead of you and uses its magic rays to disintegrate all valuable items before you even see them, so that you never have to bother about carrying stuff at all, and don't miss it. This is the best one by far.

Quote: Originally written by Jamey: Or, perhaps add a pack-mule type creation which has an inventory, a lot of HP (so it doesn't die all the time), and cannot fight worth a darn. That would avoid a lot of complications. Quote: Originally written by Student of Trinity: The explanation of how it would all supposedly work in the game world is indeed a bit complicated, though hokey is in the eye of the behoker, and I figure that courier creations are one of the first things I'd make if I were a Shaper. But the gameplay would be very simple; simpler, I'd say, than a droppable backpack, a pack mule, or multiple schlepping trips to haul back loot.