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[Avernum 3] Killing Ellhioc for Troglodyte King

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I'm underneath the Trogolodyte Castle having accepted the king's mission to kill Ellhioc. I know how to use Ellhioc's machine to manipulate the runes so that I can cross the room with a crack in the wall. From what I understand, I need to use Move Mountains or a Stoneshatter Crystal to get through the crack.

 

What if I have neither? Does that make it impossible to complete this quest?

 

I've tried clearing out the castle underground in search of a Stoneshatter Crystal (or some other means of getting to Ellhioc), but no luck so far ...

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OK, so it turns out I can leave the castle underground and then the castle itself via the secret exit but return later via the main entrance ... so it looks like it is possible to leave, find some means of getting through the wall, and then returning to complete the quest.

 

Next problem: where do I find stoneshatter crystals? I went to Elspeth (Isle of Bigail lighthouse) but she doesn't stock any. Then I tried Vavnor (also Isle of Bigail) and Nell (Farport) in the hope that they would have a scroll of move mountains, but neither of them do.

 

This is really starting to annoy me ...

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What is your party composition like? Do you have at least one character with high enough Priest spells to learn Move Mountains? If so, by the point you're at in the game, you should be able to talk to the mage (I forget her name) in the home fort where the game starts, and she will let you look at two spell tomes beyond a secret wall just south of her. One is for lvl 2 Far Sight, and the other for lvl 2 Move Mountains.

 

If nobody has high enough Priest or Mage skills for these spells, I would prioritize those skills as you train your characters. I hope that helps.

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Thanks for the advice.

 

I finally found a shop in Squiggus that sells stoneshatter crystals ... really annoying that such an important quest virtually hinges on having a priest in the party.

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Jeff makes a lot of assumptions in what a party will have. Since the Anama (priest spells only) are in this game, the assumption that you will have priest spells is valid.

 

An alternative was going back to Upper Avernum and recruiting the slith priest NPC in place of a party member.

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unless you are willing spend fortunes on crystals and potions then getting casters is needed.

 

many crystals like that stoneshatter are rarish so not many sell those and not that many crystals on sale so player needs to careful when using crystals.

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You leave a dungeon and come back, any barriers you dispelled on your previous visit are now back in place.

Never mind playing a singleton on Torment, if you want a real challenge play an Anama party! Just as well they don't need Stoneshatter crystals, they access all Priest spells including Move Mountains. Haste and Dispel Barrier are really a headache to replace.

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If you live long enough to get them.

During combat you can use Haste Potions and Elixirs but one Slow spell wipes out the whole effect, ditto War Blessing spells.

Anama parties will lack the Slow spell themselves...

Has anyone ever won the game with an Anama party, without cheating?

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i'm gonna say yes as, prolly Randomizer or some other weirdo (;P).

 

i'm playing acs and buffs (haste, protection and blessing) tend to last max 3 rounds except 1 char who keeps those 4 rounds (haste mostly).

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