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  1. "Good" Shaper ending : Help the Shapers, get a high reputation with them, use few or no canisters, and the Shapers will be true to their word, you'll get your reward.

     

    "Bad" Shaper ending : Help the Shapers, but use too many canisters. This ending may be even worse if you have a low rep with the Shapers.

     

    There is no "bad" rebel ending (except for the one Thuryl mentioned - help the rebels but give Alwan the Unbound papers), but it's happier if you have a high reputation with them.

     

    Shaper Trakovite ending : you'll be seen as a hero by some, but you'll die.

     

    Rebel Trakovite ending : If you have a high reputation with the rebels, you'll spend the rest of your life in the hostile Forsaken Lands. If you have a low rebel reputation, you'll be executed.

     

    Weird endings : Complete the Unbound after helping the Shapers win the battle, or destroy the Unbound after helping the rebels win the battle. I believe the Shapers may actually let you live in the second case, if you didn't use too many canisters. You'll still be exiled, though.

  2. Originally Posted By: Serene Tempest
    Also, if you help the shapers shut down the rebellion right then and there, and you have a strong enough pro-shaper reputation so they don't completely distrust you, they just strip you of all your powers and let you live out the rest of your life in obscurity.


    The canisters do make a difference. If use almost no canisters and have a high reputation with the Shapers, you get a fairly good Shaper ending. It's been a while since I read the GF4 Shaper ending, but I think you even manage to gain a small amount of influence.
  3. Originally Posted By: Serene Tempest
    Originally Posted By: Delicious Vlish
    I thought about naming my Sorceress Erika.


    I'm starting a game that's going to end up allying with Alwan, so just for the hell of it' I'm playing an Agent named Miranda.


    (Just before starting my GF4 Mental focus Servile playthrough, I thought I'd name him Delicious Dish, because I was so sure he would die many times, and because Delicious Vlish was the one who inspired me to do this playthrough in the first place. Then I considered naming him Teachey the Discordian, but I realized almost nobody would get the reference. So he ended up being Soulflayer.)
  4. "I can remove it. However, it will be difficult. And extremely painful. Are you sure that you want to take the risk? Remember, as long as you stay far from Rawal, he will not be able to control you." -Sage Quothe (Astoria's faction), Litalia (Trakovite faction), Shaper Marzan (Alwan's faction), Agent Caluma (Taygen's faction).

     

    "I think I can remove it. However, it will be difficult. And extremely painful. And yet, I think you must take the risk, if you would serve usss." -Saakash (Ghaldring's faction).

     

    "Rawal is the first to see you. He stares at you intently for a moment and then smiles smugly. He knows that you still bear the control tool. One day, he plans to turn this to his advantage." - Narrator, Council meeting.

     

    If you tell Rawal that you are working for Astoria, Alwan, or Taygen while you still have the control tool :

     

    Rawal : "I see. Despite all I have offered, despite all of my authority, you have turned on me. That is fine. I am forgiving. I know how to let go. But first, one thing ...".

    Player : "Yes?"

    Narrator : "Shaper Rawal waves a hand. The control tool in your chest jerks slightly. It tears a tiny hole in your heart. The Shaper could have killed you quickly, of course. Since he is in a bad mood, however, he amuses himself by giving you the slow, agonizing death. After you expire (eventually), he feels much better."

     

    If you make Rawal hostile while you still have the control tool :

    Rawal : "Such bold defiance. I am impressed. But I think this has gone on long enough."

    Narrator : "He points at you and makes a little motion with his hand. The command tool in your chest has a spasm. This tears open a hole in your heart. You collapse and die."

  5. I know you can't swear loyalty to Rawal without the control tool. What I meant was this : When you meet the Shaper Council while still bearing the control tool, the game implies that Rawal intends to use you as his pawn later on. So I thought that maybe the alternate Rawal ending occured if you triggered one of the non-Rawal endings while still having the tool. Probably not, but I was just wondering.

  6. I prefer the old graphics too. Also, BoE has in my opinion much prettier custom graphics than BoA. And they can take up more than one square. Just look at the Ice Drake from Shadow of the Stranger, or the Malice Demon from An Apology, or Legion from Falling Stars, or Natus from Nebulous Times Hence. You just don't see graphics this pretty in BoA. Sure, BoA can be pretty too, but not as much as BoE.

  7. I've beaten Frostbite on Torment, and I still got the Defender's Blade. After getting advice from Lazarus about the whole "be sure to loot the reagents at least twice" feature, it wasn't that hard. Of course, the part right after the goblin fight still required a few (read : many) reloads...

     

    EDIT : Randomizer, the fight in the goblin hall requires you to thoroughly abuse the engine, if I remember correctly. See how you can use your surroundings to your advantage...

  8. TM's BoA scenarios really aren't that hard. Although General Shroud in Canopy may give you some trouble as soon as TM uploads the fixed version.

     

    TM made much, much harder fights in his BoE scenarios.

     

    Enraged Slith - Thalia Colony is, ah, several people who "withdrew from the world" due to the crazy events happening on Morrow's Isle. If you fix the bug in one of the outdoor scripts, you can attack the Colony provided you haven't dealt with them yet. This triggers a tough fight against quite a few Elite Warriors, a lot of Bladesmen, a Wizard, and maybe a few other enemies I can't remember. If you manage to win, you get no reward (other than the items that the enemies drop and the XP).

     

    Overall, if you want to play really hard scenarios, you're better off with BoE : Doom Moon series, At the Gallows (the Vahnatai Emeritus and Caffen-Bok are among my favorite battles, but only because I'm a masochist), Revenge, Echoes series, Shadow of the Stranger (to some extent), An Apology*, Roots, Areni...

     

    *Note about An Apology : IMO, it's all about having extensive knowledge of the BoE engine and carefully creating your party. If you're an expert player, you'll have no problems completing it. If not, it's basically impossible. Big K's keep is an excellent test.

  9. Blades of Rogue, hands down. Requires very careful skill points investment and decent knowledge of the Blades engine.

     

    Valley of Dying Things has two very difficult optional fights (the Spirit of the Sick and Zorvas) and beating Thalia Colony in A Small Rebellion isn't a cakewalk either.

  10. Hmm, thanks. I think there is a way to slip past the mines and even attack the gate, though (again, judging from the scripts). The real problem is probably that you eventually face a gate or a wall that you can't get past.

  11. The latter, it seems. I believe Lethia Province and the Nodye Coast occasionally send reinforcements (unexperienced and terrified soldiers, that is), if that makes you feel any better.

     

    Off-topic : I thought it would be possible to enter Lethia and Nodye when I first saw the map, but the Lethia and Nodye gates are like the Turabi Gate and the Western Morass... Are they as well defended as their GF4 equivalents?

  12. Probably a wise idea... According to the ones who have finished it, you should only enter it if you have a very strong character. Even then, don't expect to be able to clear everything on your first try. It's apparently significantly harder than the GF4 expert areas.

  13. No clue. The only thing I can tell you is that Sammann's two areas are GF5's expert dungeon, which can be entered from the Okavano Barrier once you have the two keys (I think).

     

    Sammann was a rebel Lifecrafter who went crazy after extensively reshaping himself. He's also a pretty tough boss, apparently, with nasty HP regeneration abilities.

  14. Jeff rarely makes final battles difficult. He prefers to make optional challenges instead.

     

    Anyway, Sharissa and Nawal should both be fairly easy, especially with Akhari Blaze's help. As for Shema, I hope Jeff didn't make him *too* easy.

     

    If you want to see hard battles, try clearing Sammann's two challenge areas.

  15. When you side with Ghaldring, you get to kill all seven Council members. Rawal, Alwan, Astoria, and Taygen are all faction leaders and have to be assassinated separately. Then Ghaldring tells you to go kill the last three members (Nawal, Sharissa, and High Councillor Shema) in their own Council Hall. However, they aren't really doing a "council meeting" when you and Akhari Blaze attack. They're making their last stand.

  16. Agreed. You just can't save both Greta and Astoria and get rid of Rawal, it seems.

     

    I've been doing some more browsing... When does Astoria ask you to kill Ghaldring? It would seem that the battle takes place *after* you meet the Shaper Council... So is the Kill Ghaldring quest directly given by the Shaper Council? If so, it appears that you can't read what happens at the meeting merely by browsing the scripts.

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