Summon creature exploit

[Zummi]

is the exploit where you summon a creature and go hide and out of combat and hold down Wait and any enemy in sight of the creature gets whittled down in health, known?

[The Reverend]

 

is the exploit where you summon a creature and go hide and out of combat and hold down Wait and any enemy in sight of the creature gets whittled down in health, known?

 

I'd call it a tactic, not an exploit.

[Zummi]

i'd label it as such too but when you summon a bat that can only take a hit or two from what you're facing and you do this? that aint tactical.

[mouton]

Playing on torment is usually threading a fine line of "exploit or strategy?". In the end, it's up to every individual to decide.

[Jerakeen]

To me, an exploit is taking advantage of a quirk in the engine to do something that shouldn't be possible. For example, your casters can target any mapped space with a circular AoE spell, even if it's not line-of-sight. Even if it's out of range, as long as you can't see a creature on it.

 

Using pets to whittle down enemy health seems like something working the way it's supposed to.

[The Reverend]

To me, an exploit is taking advantage of a quirk in the engine to do something that shouldn't be possible. For example, your casters can target any mapped space with a circular AoE spell, even if it's not line-of-sight. Even if it's out of range, as long as you can't see a creature on it.

Really? I thought that the center space (that you target) of the AoE has to be line of sight from the caster - the other squares in the AoE don't, but that doesn't seem too unrealistic if you view the AoE like something that explodes from the central/targetted square.

[Jerakeen]

Really. In the mac version, at least. Try it - it's ridiculous.

[mouton]

To me, an exploit is taking advantage of a quirk in the engine to do something that shouldn't be possible.

It's a blurry line. For example, you can leave some hard areas to recharge halfway through them. While it is not against the game mechanics, it does feel a bit off, as it exploits the static nature of the gameworld. Of course, this particular example activity is very much done on torment due to obvious reasons.

 

Using pets to whittle down enemy health seems like something working the way it's supposed to.

From what Zummi posted, I understand the pets whttile down enemy health without being hit themselves. Which sounds like a glitch and thus an exploit. Unless I read it wrong.

[Zummi]

From what Zummi posted, I understand the pets whttile down enemy health without being hit themselves. Which sounds like a glitch and thus an exploit. Unless I read it wrong.

No, you got it correct. First time I encountered this was in Silvar, in the quest to clear it's sewers from worms and whatever's spawning them. The nephil boss was too much for a level 4 singleton in Torment. I did this, hopefully wittling down the boss' HP a bit but wasn't expecting him to get down to half health.

[Jerakeen]

Whoa, weird. I stand corrected.

[The Reverend]

Now I'm really confused ... I've had summons killed by enemies, so clearly they must get hit. Are you saying they don't get hit if you hide and can't see them?? If so, that certainly is an exploit!!

[Mosquito---Slayer]

Now I'm really confused ... I've had summons killed by enemies, so clearly they must get hit. Are you saying they don't get hit if you hide and can't see them?? If so, that certainly is an exploit!!

Yes It happens, I believe it happened in A6 as well, however it doesn't seem to be a very reliable method.

[Earth]

Will get fixed in ACS and maybe in AEFTP too if JV thinks its worth to fix.

[mouton]

Thankfully, this is one of those things where we can easily apply the "just don't do it" fix (: