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  1. If I am opposed to Mormonism, being a very strict atheist, I'd like to say that you do seem to be a pretty decent and normal person, even though that shouldn't be grounds on which anybody should be judged.

     

    Also I'd like to add that even if I can't understand religious people in general, I think I'm doing a good job living with them: my latest companion is Muslim.

     

    Also :

    Originally Posted By: Harehunter
    I am not a strong supporter of evangelism, although I accept that there are people who feel 'called' to it.

    I also hold that atheists should be free to hold to their faith that there is no God.

     

    Faith? Actually assumption, or belief we assume that God does not exist because we are not a religion.

  2. Originally Posted By: Harehunter
    There are hot spots in Avernum due to volcanic action here and there. It is here where the colder water containing a high concentration of dissolved O2, in the form of H2O2, would boil off breaking down the H2O2 into steam H2O and O2. Also, the GIFTS know of otherwise unknown passages back to the surface through which there could be some transference of O2.


    That could be plausible, but... it doesn't create enough O2 for every one. especially if you are munching on plant matter down there.

    There's a an easier solution. No photosynthesis.

    I found out that a whole ecology based on methane was more than plausible.

    Methane and certain gases produced by the volcanoes can be used by certain micro-organisms without even the use of light to produce large quantities of O2 and water.

    Easy to obtain, abundant, economic source of power which if converted can produce slower rates of O2 production than that of real plants, but it doesn't stop at night and it sticks to the description of Avernum, that is filled with volcanoes, lava, waters, poisonous marshes, hot pools, vents, geysers... and moving vegetation which began locomotion in order to find other sources of methane, when hot spots vanished in one place.
  3. Originally Posted By: Lilith
    "insane" isn't a term with a proper psychological definition anyway


    In psychiatry, sanity is possibly when someone is fully morally aware of his actions.

    Originally Posted By: ξ
    Originally Posted By: Upon Mars.

    Yeah I get a lot of that. Most people never herd about a little someone called Karl Popper.

    This was a lot funnier when I read this as John Popper.


    Haha! Love it man.
  4. If all of this happened to you then you must live amongst very naive people.

     

    Also for the record I'm not bad myself:

     

    -One year before my birth a plane filled with biological and chemical weapons, helicopter missiles and napalm crashed in my parents neighbourhood nearly killing my parents (confer El Al Flight 1862.)

    -I'm allergic to most pesticides.

    -I don't like the movie the sound of music because it's racist, and I strongly dislike a certain scenes in the star wars films for the same reasons.

    -I was hit by car running at least for 50 km per hour and got only a small head cut and a slight head trauma.

    -My mother worked at Disney, she was responsible for the camera animation behind hercules, Mulan, tarzan etc... (you know the scene where Tarzan surfboard on the tree-trunks... she did most of the camera work on that)

    -My father who was of Jewish origin became a Christian, converted to Islam and became a sufi before establishing himself as a pseudo - Buddhist, met Idris Shah, Doris Lessing and worked for the queen of England and of Holland and backed financially Afghan families during the Afghan conflict with Russia.

     

    Originally Posted By: Harehunter
    - I am not religious, but I am a Christian. There is a difference.

     

    Do you in fact mean: "Although I am Christian, I don't believe in the rituals and all that organisations that has accompanied Christianity for a long time."?

  5. Originally Posted By: Student of Trinity
    Any sufficiently detailed magic is indistinguishable from technology.


    Wasn't that a quote from Ekralc Selrahc Ruhtra's three laws? wink

    Originally Posted By: Lilith

    Hydrogen peroxide isn't very stable: it breaks down into water and oxygen on its own at room temperature. You'd need some source that's continually producing it.


    What for example? Aside from magic.

    Also "Pure hydrogen peroxide was long believed to be unstable. This was because of failed attempts to separate the hydrogen peroxide from the water, which is present during synthesis. However, this instability was due to traces of impurities (transition metals salts) that catalyze the decomposition of the hydrogen peroxide. One hundred percent pure hydrogen peroxide was first obtained through vacuum distillation by Richard Wolffenstein in 1894." -wikipedia, hydrogen peroxide.
  6. Originally Posted By: Miramor
    Originally Posted By: "Upon Mars"


    1.My theatrical background provided me the first possible answer: Theater is all about stage, actors, objects and ultimately the non-existence of the stage, actors and objects, which is why theatre can be so excessive, so brutal compared to a screen, photography or a painting.

    The medium of the screen, paintings and TV makes this excess of meaning (that a physical chair is not just a physical chair) impossible : it depicts reality, I even claim that it creates reality, because the object depicted is not physical so that it can be carried into your mind wherever you go, that it precisely doesn't allow you to continue the way you did before, which is the opposite of theatre where people are allowed to return to normal, that the thing which happened on stage has never really happened. So in conclusion if law is depicted as swift on the TV, even if you don't believe in it the very medium through which it has passed has presented it's self as true/real.


    IOW, theater has more impact because it forces you to imagine the setting? I suppose that makes sense, if I am understanding you correctly. I'm not sure it's universally true for everyone, though.

    However, I must at this point go OT and say that I strongly dislike the phrase "creates reality." Not because it's technically wrong - "reality" includes our beliefs and behaviors and perceptions, since those are very physical properties of our bodies - but because it is extremely easy to abuse, and tends to create misunderstanding. Tell someone who isn't a philosophy major about "creating reality" and they'll think you're talking about changing the laws of physics.

    (And it doesn't help IMO that some philosophy professors I've met have actually talked about exactly that - that the laws of physics are purely subjective social constructs, and can vary depending on our beliefs.)


    True the phrase is very ambiguous: it's just that I'm translating French into English (I act in French plays hence...) What I really mean is that pictures creates/recreates the tools that help us perceive reality, this what I mean by "creating reality".

    Originally Posted By: Miramor
    IOW, theater has more impact because it forces you to imagine the setting?


    Perhaps it has a more "direct" political dimension than the screen, but in that case, if the point of theatre is to suspend social life, it may have a opposite impact of the screen/photography/painting/drawing in the sense that the point of doing theatre is to create a vacant space where anything is possible. My point is that pictures don't work the same they help define reality as we perceive it : in a painting or on your TV screen a chair is just a chair, so in a way CSI agents working in a way are just agents working "in the way they should be doing" a broad manner of speech, hence why perhaps we are confused when actual experts don't function/work in the same manner.
  7. Agreed then. In any case could a ecosystem based on the consumption of hydrogen peroxide, without any source of outside light or air be self sufficient enough to create enough oxygen and food for such an abundance of life as depicted in avernum? And would it plausible?

  8. Originally Posted By: The praxis of practice
    CSI has taught many people many things about forensics and law, and many of those things are simply not true. This is a source of immense frustration to those actually involved in criminal trials, as the evidence they present isn't as quick, as authoritative, and as neat as the public has come to expect.


    People should be watching this Danish program called the Killing: it's accurate about how evidence is actually pieced together and not conjured up out of thin air. It also helps us understand that experts can't do everything at once most and that judicial affairs aren't as neatly resolved as one might think; there 's still lots of blanks, lacks of testimonies even after closing the case.

    Also I have to give Two hypothesis to why people expect that law should be so quick and immediate.

    1.My theatrical background provided me the first possible answer: Theater is all about stage, actors, objects and ultimately the non-existence of the stage, actors and objects, which is why theatre can be so excessive, so brutal compared to a screen, photography or a painting.

    The medium of the screen, paintings and TV makes this excess of meaning (that a physical chair is not just a physical chair) impossible : it depicts reality, I even claim that it creates reality, because the object depicted is not physical so that it can be carried into your mind wherever you go, that it precisely doesn't allow you to continue the way you did before, which is the opposite of theatre where people are allowed to return to normal, that the thing which happened on stage has never really happened. So in conclusion if law is depicted as swift on the TV, even if you don't believe in it the very medium through which it has passed has presented it's self as true/real.


    2. It's not the TV, it's about politics. Aren't you aware that the gradual absence of the state into the affairs of it's people, corporations etc, by taking away funds is actually reinforcing the state? Picture a political regime which blames the apathy of it's people for all the ills it has caused: obesity -people don't take care of themselves, problems with immigrants -they don't wish to integrate, disparities between the rich and the poor -the poor don't work enough and all that sh@-é. A political party needs only a strong media to focus on a issue, and and they already have a solution instead of dealing the almost colossal task of dealing with all of these problems all at once.


    Originally Posted By: The praxis of practice
    This sort of misconception about what something is actually like affects all kinds of fields, ranging from high school stereotypes to the most esoteric reaches of academia to the most niche hobbies.

    Set the record straight, Spiderweb. What things that you do, like, or are do you find people consistently misunderstanding, misconstruing, and misappropriating?


    Psychology. Most people believe that just because I'm a psychology student that I'm interested into analysing their profile and deducing things from their subconscious, which I don't for four main reasons:

    A. It's impolite. Go manage your own hell.
    B. Psychology is about ethics. Not "good healthy relationships". Just ethics.
    C. It's not my department. I try to understand/analyse "the mind" not your mind.
    D. I like numbers, dismantling theories and stuff. I don't "undo" other people and read them like paper strips.

    Originally Posted By: The praxis of practice
    —Alorael, who thought of this while talking about science in a room full of scientists with a scattering of non-scientists. He used a paraphrase of something SoT once said about experimental science requiring high tolerance of being wrong and stupid most of the time, and many scientists nodded thoughtfully while a few laypersons looked horrified.


    Yeah I get a lot of that. Most people never herd about a little someone called Karl Popper.

    I was even called a criminal supporter for saying that I wasn't concerned by the existence of crime and delinquency, but rather concerned and interested by the variations of crime of a specific place and time-set.
  9. Perhaps, but considering the near total absence of light, how do explain that they may produce enough energy to be viable? It would mean that the mushrooms would produce light nearly as strong as light bulbs, but I doubt that smile

  10. According to what I read of avernum, the trees feed off the heat and light from volcanoes and variety of mushrooms which thrive on decaying matter and the faeces of bats. The problem is I don't think that it's plausible for trees or let alone specially modified fungi to thrive on hydrogen sulphide and methane or CO2 and light from mushrooms and as abundant as depicted in A1, A2 &A3 all together. I believe that waters filled with Hydrogen peroxide may be a solution to this problem. Also it might explain why some of the water sources in avernum are beneficent, and why mushrooms grown in avernum can cure infections and bugs.

  11. Hi, I playing Avernum and paid special attention to how plants survived in the sunless caves. I then decided to look up lifeforms which could be produce O2 without sunlight and I found that hydrogen peroxyde could be used to create oxygen, water and energy without he need of sunlight. My question is, is there places underground were hydrogen peroxide naturally occurs like the waters at Lourdes and how does occur naturally?

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