Thank you Randomiser, I cannot remember the names of the ones I killed in the 4 circles dungeon area but I have gone over and around and over and around again and still have gotten nothing to pick up. I have checked every bit of floor area to see if I missed something but to no avail. There is a gate where the aged drake was with 2 wheels, one to the north east and the other more to the east neither will indicate that they are working, there is no clicking sound or any words to say that you heard anything and the gate stays closed. To the very south there is 2 gates and same with the wheels nothing, nada. The wheel in that area that has lava(?) in it does nothing and the gate stays shut. I am wondering what have I done wrong and would appreciate any help that you can give, thanks.