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Posted 12 March 2017 - 02:44 AM #1 GF1: What level were you when you completed the Crypt?

Hi, I just joined the Spiderweb Forums to ask about a series I've had for a while, but only recently started playing: Geneforge.
I played the demo for the first one years and years ago (probably when I was 10) and I remember enjoying it a lot, so I bought the series on steam a year or two ago. Now, I've just started getting into it and I have over 80 hours logged on the first game (in just 1 playthrough!)

So, my question arises; what level were you when you completed the Shaper Crypt and Inner Crypt? I just completed these areas, holding onto the skin of my teeth on Normal with a level 18 Shaper (he was level 20 by the time I got out of there). My int was around 10 and I had 12 in all three of the 'general' stats, and my magic shaping was 13 while the others were 6. I ended up blowing 2 entire defense rods, 1 and a half attack rods, and some of my special spores.

My "arsenal", if you could call it that, was an Ur-Glaahk, 3/0/2/2, and 3 Searing Artilas, 0/3/2/2. I felt like I was severely underleveled, so what was the level Mr. Vogel was aiming for when he created that area? Was I on target?

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Posted 12 March 2017 - 04:30 AM #2 GF1: What level were you when you completed the Crypt?

The correct level is whichever one allows you to complete it. :D But seriously, there's no "official" level threshold. The crypt is an endgame challenge, though, so I would guess mid-to-high 20s was the "expected" level for players to tackle it. So yeah, "severely underleveled" sound about right. ;)

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Posted 12 March 2017 - 04:41 AM #3 GF1: What level were you when you completed the Crypt?

You're probably pretty underlevelled, but you do have a decent arsenal.  Shaping is very, very strong in the first game, and pushing Magic Shaping up sort of like you did is one of the strongest options available.
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Posted 12 March 2017 - 05:29 AM #4 GF1: What level were you when you completed the Crypt?

Good (or maybe not so) to see my suspicions are confirmed. I've finally completed the game as a Shaper;
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I completed the game at level 20, the same level I exited the Crypt. Are you sure mid-to-high 20s was the appropriate level? I really couldn't find a whole lot of places to earn experience from; even some of the tanky monsters, like Battle Gammas and Cryodrayks, were only giving me single-digit to very low double-digit experience.

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Posted 12 March 2017 - 05:32 AM #5 GF1: What level were you when you completed the Crypt?

I believe the theoretical level limit in Geneforge 1 is 31, but it's pretty much impossible to get there without exploits. Low 20s is a pretty solid endgame level. Ultimately, the Shaper Crypts are designed to be extremely difficult optional challenge areas, and the bottom line is you found them hard because they're hard.

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Posted 12 March 2017 - 08:48 AM #6 GF1: What level were you when you completed the Crypt?

Lvl 30 is achievable in the Inner Crypt but that's a long and boring slog. Early 20s is plenty to beat everything, it's not as if a few skillpoints make you that much stronger (10-cap makes sure of that).

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Posted 12 March 2017 - 09:03 AM #7 GF1: What level were you when you completed the Crypt?

It's not just a few skill points -- it's also your HP and Essence multipliers -- as well as extra levels for creations (if you haven't been buffing creation skill till the end).  Definitely not as critical as earlier level ups are, but not meaningless.
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