The Torque

Originally Posted By: Lilith Hey, if you don't like the game that's fine (though I'd encourage you to at least try the Avadon demo before forming an opinion), but just so you know I've had to bowdlerise your post a little to remove the swearing. There are kids who read this forum, so watch your language in future. Im sorry, I forget sometimes about the hypocrisy of the americans and their fear of dirty words (while killing in games is a-okay!). What really is the problem with saying s**t rather then crap? ITS THE SAME THING. Also its okay to write s**t as long as you censor it, even if a 12 year old kid understands what im writing... Anyway, I digress from the point. You are right though, I shouldnt form an opinion of Avadon w/o trying it first. I will try it once I get time for it, I was just pointing out that many people have issues with it that I can relate to. Im no big fan of how the mainstream gaming handles this new wave of RPGs and to me it seems like Spiderweb wants to get in on that too. At the same time, I cant blame people for making money (cos it does, people will buy those kind of games) but I cant help but be abit disapointed when games stops catering to my needs. Maybe Im too old for games but then again we had an 18 year old post in this thread agreing with OP so.

I want the characters to say "Cool" when they level. Ah the nostalgia that would bring!

Hello! I must say that Im also one of those old timers who curse at the new videogamers (who skate on my lawn) and I agree wholeheartedly with OP. I remember as a kid getting Exile 2 on a demo disc from my fathers work and hell did I play that much! However, the last game I bought was Blades of Exile as the demos for Avernum didnt do much for me (the isometric view wasnt what I expected I think, I'd rather go with the simple 2D one, besides going from 6 to 4 characters bummed me out too). Anyways, my point is this seeing that Spiderweb are doing a remake of the old Exile games (I hope they will do II and III too?) I really hope they're going back to its roots only using an updated engine. Sure I can get used to the isometric view and the 4man party but OP is correct, the fact of the matter is that I've read a handfull of forumposts similar to him about Avadon and I dont even know if I should give Avadon a try (I prolly will though) because of what has been said about it. Seems like the majority of players today dont want to read in their games, they dont want storytelling, they dont want character depth or complexability. They want games like DA2? Well not really, DA2 may have its fanbase but overall the community who bought it are frustrated over how bad it was. So what does that mean? Go back to the roots! I sincerely hope that Jeff and his crew stand true to the Exile saga and dont "dumb it down" like most other game developers do. Also I saved that picture you had OP, I see the filename and know where you got it from, kudos fellow anon! Oh and let me add: TERRIBLE CONSOLE PORT DUMBED DOWN FOR ADHD KIDS, RAAASGH GO FOR THE EYES BOO, GO FOR THE EEEYEES.