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Entire party must be in room to trigger Travald.

Did you leave anyone outside?

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Thanks. That will help a lot. Not ready to commit yet, so will check out the non-faction spots.

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Big problem here.

Met Sholai in the caves.

Got the key, learned (supposedly) language from Masha. Read the diary. Went to see Astrov.

Can't understand him. Game says I need more instruction.

No idea how/where to get it.

What's up? Bug? Game is v1.0.1

No pre-Sholai saves available.

If no other instruction available, how to set flag so I know language?

Thanks for all help.

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Remember where you started the game? The test area? Where you delivered the crystal? That guy has a forge. He'll let you use it if you bring him something. It's the most convenient until you go down to the southern half of the map.

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Understatement, Thuryl. Door leads to toughest optional dungeon in the game. Really, really tough.

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All creations permanent unless killed or absorbed.

Personally, never use disposables myself. Keep early critters until can upgrade. E.g., cryodrayk for cryoa. Prefer essence-heavy chars, so usually have six "pals" by late game.

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Astoria. First of five faction leaders. In Haria-Kel, by the first town (Mera) you come to after heading south from Isenwood Spire.

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So? Nothing in 11 days? Not playing anymore? Party all dead?

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Plenty trainers to buy BA from. Like Mendoa in Trak Haven, and Cyprien in Fort Vengeance. Two cheapest to buy from w/o joining a faction.

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Got leadership 6 or better? Pay Koski. Then get soldiers at the gate to fight him.

Never needed to do so myself. Always saved refugees, too. Daze. Gotta love it.

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Ref Barzhal's list. All open. Imp has the right idea. Should have "Spoiler" on topic name. Probably too late now, though.

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So? You don't think all that stuff up there isn't spoiler?

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Nasty 2-part dungeon, too. Did it once. Figured that was enough. May be hardest jaunt in the game.

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Didn't need to kill many. Just wanted fastest route to the gate. Only had to take out one patch. Then moseyed over for a look. Fastest time ever for this job. Wish I'd thought of it sooner.

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Good. Been wanting to kill those things. Thanks.

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Just looked at list. Genzlen at Fort Vengeance gives Shapemaster *belt*, not blade. Good belt, too.

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Usually pussyfoot through to the gate. Thinking about taking down the turrets instead. Any kickback there? Anyone go hostile if I kill the turrets?

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Good lists, love 'em. Really handy for not missing good stuff. Always miss something somewhere. Or would, except for lists. Keep 'em coming.

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Taygen & Ghaldring both nuts. Litalia no better.

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Box in East Alpha has ornkskin gloves.

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Got screenshots of upper and lower travel map. png format. Kinda big, tho. 512x384. Could shrink, but then harder to see. How to upload?

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See top post on this board: Geneforge 5 Strategy Central. Has links for much stuff, including a walkthru.

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So much for that. Thx for the replies. Really wanted him dead. Of course, could kill him then restore, but not satisfying. Oh well.

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What help do you need? Hard to figure with no details.

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Nah. Canisters are in lab area. Sneak in carefully. Occasional use of combat mode helpful. Suggest showmeall cheat to help movement. Also leave critters outside.

Gazer can is in the south, right-hand room. Will need several living tools to unlock levers.

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