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Thanks! It took about 4-5 tries but he eventually showed up.

Apparently I missed an entire area on my first play through, the Shaper Crypt. I checked the forum and I need two orbs- the spiky steel and spiky silver.

I have the spiky steel orb I've been carrying around looking for . The spiky silver orb I was supposed to get from a starving Thahd in the western wastes, but I never got it. When I did that map I remember just going crazy trying to get the spawners killed, and don't remember a starving Thahd or a silver orb.

I went back and searched the Western Wasted and the Thad nest is there, but I can't find the orb anywhere.

Any help?

Well recruiting the servant mind did the trick.

I even got a good ending (I played shaper loyalist allied with the obeyers). We now can have some Order! None of this crazy people thinking they can have divine power from a pond, bloody peasants!

"I recommend liberal use of the Dominate spell since most Sholai have no resistance to mental."

That's weird. Stabby (my ur-glaahk) wasn't getting much traction with his Dominate ability. I noticed the augmented guys didn't get charmed at all, but sometimes the warriors  would in my many retries.

Ah! I fed the servant mind before! I shall go enlist his help.

I also have the red spore baton to try as well.

A straight up fight was definitely not going to work. I was just shocked at the difficulty jump. I've beaten just about everything else in the game (even the cockatrice swarms, which are new, didn't see those last time I played these) and couldn't see how/why this area was SO much tougher than the rest of the game.

Thanks!

I played through and beat the whole Geneforge series before, so I'm not new to this, but I can't get through the Guarded Docks. Like not even close. On regular difficulty.

I am a Level 19 shaper, have two drayks lvl20, one cryodrake lvl20, one ur-glaahk lvl19, one iron claw bug lvl14, and on the last try added a charged vlish lvl17 (hoping the weakness field would make a difference) and I get pounded into the dirt. I put on essence shields, mass energize, etc.

I have killed Goettsch, destroyed the Geneforge, wiped out the Takers, killed the leader of the Awakened, etc. and cleared the map (except Diarazad won't go green no matter what I do) and am a wrecking machine. But I go the Guarded Docks and just get wiped out. I have tried luring some out to fight them separately to no avail. This isn't a "oh, hard challenge, gonna have to reload a buncha times to get through". This is like a toddler fighting Mike Tyson.

Is there some trick I'm missing? Because at this point I'm just about ready to just call it quits.