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flewk posted a topic in Avernum: Escape from the Pit and Avernum 2: Crystal SoulsPlaying on torment. Getting completely wrecked. Been going back to it every couple of levels. Not sure what level people usually beat the champions at... The 4 human champions have so much hp and and are still 1 or 2 shotting my squishier mage and priests at level 26. Have tried level 3 ward of elements and steel, neither worked (if i go elements, the melee kills me and if i go steel, the magic kills me; my tank can survive even without steel, but the knockback usually means the other melee will get 1 of the squishies). The farthest I got was spamming reloads until charm worked on the assassin because I figured it would have the lowest mental resistance. It would buy me 5/6 turns, but I can't even kill one of them in that time. I would also spam daze/icy rain hoping to disable them long enough so I can kill one. The problem is that disables usually miss and when they do hit, they only last 1 round or are cured by the priest/battle discipline. These guys seem so much harder than everything else I've fought against, including main storyline quests. I can probably beat them after 30, but I was wondering if there was a good strategy to do it before then? I feel like I am missing something important.