Well-Actually War Trall Delicious Vlish Posted October 27, 2008 Share Posted October 27, 2008 The old fyora / cryoa graphics? I know I do. I do not care much for the burnt orange little monster we have now. I miss the bright red little raptor. Also, I miss the ability to create terror vlish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unflappable Drayk Sleeping Dragon Posted October 27, 2008 Share Posted October 27, 2008 I can't say there is a single graphical 'upgrade' made in the Geneforge series that I have agreed with completely. It's not necessarily that all the new ones are worse than the old ones, but it does negate the nostalgia feeling when suddenly a creation you've been shaping for years doesn't look the same anymore. I also don't really like the new shaper graphic, the old one was far more iconic and, interestingly, is still used in splash screen and endings art. I wonder how that happened. Edit: One change I wouldn't be opposed to would be a new drakon graphic. The old one doesn't look that great anyway and drakons are, after all, the one creation that actually does claim to be changing with every new generation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody Luca Posted October 27, 2008 Share Posted October 27, 2008 The only change I agreed with was the gaurdian. I despise the new shaper graphic, and the new servile graphic. But it matters little, I'll change it if I don't like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk pitchblack Posted October 27, 2008 Share Posted October 27, 2008 Yeah, I agree about the old Shaper graphic, it was better, but I actually think that the Fyora/Cryora new graphic is better. (But that's just me). EDIT: Spelling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk BlueRivets Posted October 27, 2008 Share Posted October 27, 2008 The new Thahd graphic drives me absolutely bonkers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Delicious Vlish Posted October 27, 2008 Author Share Posted October 27, 2008 I rather liked the old skinless battle alphas and betas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody Luca Posted October 27, 2008 Share Posted October 27, 2008 If there is universal discontent, why do we still have them?More importantly, why did they change at all? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk pitchblack Posted October 27, 2008 Share Posted October 27, 2008 Oh, and another graphic: The new graphics for all the pods and spores. i mean, they are a bit more intersting, but i miss the color coding . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Dikiyoba Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 I suspect the discontent with new graphics is far from universal. Dikiyoba, for instance, dislikes the new thahd, spawner, and servile graphics but likes the new fyora graphic as much as the original one. (In hindsight, it's the G2 one that doesn't look so good.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unflappable Drayk Sleeping Dragon Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 Originally Posted By: Nebulan The only change I agreed with was the guardian. Now see, I though the old ones' cylindrical helmets were iconic as well, and I was surprised by the change. I agree with Dikiyoba about the spawners. Didn't descriptions from Geneforge 1 specifically mention the tendrils picking up the essence in the nearby pool? Now the tendrils are gone. Where do the creations come from? Do they shoot out of the hole on the top? The new fyoras, thahds, and battle alphas themselves don't bother me so much. If the new ones had been the old ones and vice versa my complaint would be the same (negated nostalgia). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody Feo Takahari Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 I definitely do not miss the old thahds. Depending on the angle at which they were standing, you could get quite a view (ahem.) P.S. By the way, if you haven't spotted any nudity in older Spiderweb games, look very, very closely at either the creatures (early Geneforge) or the illustrations (early Avernum.) I also noticed a bit of violence that slipped by in Blades of Avernum--severed body parts in the corner of an illustration for Diplomacy with the Dead , and a head-splitting-open graphic when you kill a zombie. One wonders how many innocent little children were scarred for life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody Luca Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 *Nebulan would like to point out the conjectural survey note for the reason for the loin cloth for the battle alpha, but doesn't, and yet this strange person at the keyboard seems to still be writing...* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Delicious Vlish Posted October 28, 2008 Author Share Posted October 28, 2008 I am more bothered by the notion of high control during breeding that is mentioned on the survey. I feel sorry for the shaper that has to be present for alpha breeding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk pitchblack Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 Ouch. No, THAT wouldn't be fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Acky Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 I persanaly love almost all the new graphics, execpt the Thahd. I actually hate them both. I do, however , like the new Thahd graphic we might get in A5(aka: stone servant) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk BlueRivets Posted October 30, 2008 Share Posted October 30, 2008 Avernum 5 has already been released, and I don't remember any thahds walking around in it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Acky Posted October 30, 2008 Share Posted October 30, 2008 The stone servants looked almost exactly like the thahds in G3-4 except they were upright. The G1-2 thahd should of been in Nethergate being that they are naked. The G3-4 one looks like it is disfugured with a ba-donk-a-donk. That's why I 'm getting my hopes up for the new stone sercant graphic to be the Thahd's graphic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody Luca Posted October 30, 2008 Share Posted October 30, 2008 I hate that Averum 4 & 5 has same character models as Geneforge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Acky Posted October 30, 2008 Share Posted October 30, 2008 It has the same models because it has the same engine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody Luca Posted October 30, 2008 Share Posted October 30, 2008 Two different theories and storylines. I shouldn't see a shaper in an undergroud prison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Acky Posted October 30, 2008 Share Posted October 30, 2008 Perhaps, but that's completly inconvient for poor Jeff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody Luca Posted October 30, 2008 Share Posted October 30, 2008 True. However, if you look at games made by the same company they do not include units from others unless they are related. Or it’s a parody of the first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk pitchblack Posted October 30, 2008 Share Posted October 30, 2008 Yes, but reusing the art assets allows Jeff to get the game out that much quicker. If he had to create new art for everything (or at least the important stuff) it would delayt the release of the game considerably. Although, yes, the duplicate art is kinda annoying. Even if I only made it about 5 min into A4 (the controls were just too different. I was used to the semi-realtime walking around in Geneforge, and the one-hex at a time of A4 was kinda wierd to me.) Edit: Spelling error. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unflappable Drayk Xelgion Posted October 30, 2008 Share Posted October 30, 2008 I'm not too happy about it, but whatever, an awesome game can't be made unawesome by a small graphics change. Good, you learned. Because if you make a typo and don't fix it, the spiderweb mod team will ban you! Like Mr. Lobster, 1 word typos are unforgiven sins! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Acky Posted October 30, 2008 Share Posted October 30, 2008 If you continue to insulate the moderators in an inappropriate way, you will get CANNED and then perhaps BANNED And whatever Lobsters link was to, I'm sure it was inappropriate enough for them to ban him/her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Aoslare Posted October 30, 2008 Share Posted October 30, 2008 Xelgion and Ackrovan: this is transparently not true, and you know it. Please stop. If you really have a problem, you can send a private message to *i about it. I'm not locking this thread, because most of the thread has been productive. But if you're gonna keep spreading your negativity, locks will start appearing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody Luca Posted October 30, 2008 Share Posted October 30, 2008 Do Not mix topics or inappropriate comments to members current and not. We aren't turning this into a "Don't tase me dude". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Delicious Vlish Posted October 30, 2008 Author Share Posted October 30, 2008 Vlish don't taze people silly. We deliver feisty tentacle slaps of pain and occasionally slurp delicious brains out through their nostrils. Oh, and occasionally, we like to watch human appendage porn. Now stop taunting the mods, before I am forced to release a box of Almarian face leaping spiders. You wouldn't like that at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody Luca Posted October 30, 2008 Share Posted October 30, 2008 Originally Posted By: Delicious Vlish Oh, and occasionally, we like to watch human appendage porn. Was this supposed to be an FSM reference? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unflappable Drayk Xelgion Posted October 30, 2008 Share Posted October 30, 2008 Originally Posted By: Slarty Xelgion and Ackrovan: this is transparently not true, and you know it. Please stop. If you really have a problem, you can send a private message to *i about it. You said to PM you. And how long is his ban? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Sudanna Posted October 30, 2008 Share Posted October 30, 2008 Originally Posted By: Nebulan Do Not mix topics or inappropriate comments to members current and not. We aren't turning this into a "Don't tase me dude". Look who's talking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Dikiyoba Posted October 30, 2008 Share Posted October 30, 2008 Originally Posted By: Delicious Vlish I am more bothered by the notion of high control during breeding that is mentioned on the survey. I feel sorry for the shaper that has to be present for alpha breeding. Having looked it up, it doesn't specifically say that high control is needed during the breeding period, just that they need high control and they can reproduce. I assumed that meant the control was needed constantly. Letting a few alphas go rogue and get away could be problematic whether they were currently capable of breeding or not. Dikiyoba. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Delicious Vlish Posted October 30, 2008 Author Share Posted October 30, 2008 Battle Alphas Gone Wild! **Shudders right down to his vlishy bones** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Aoslare Posted October 30, 2008 Share Posted October 30, 2008 Step two, put your vlish in the box? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Randomizer Posted October 30, 2008 Share Posted October 30, 2008 Originally Posted By: Ackrovan If you continue to insulate the moderators in an inappropriate way, you will get CANNED and then perhaps BANNED It's do not insult, torment and/or provoke the moderators. It's stll too warm to insulate the moderators for winter, except for Alorael who should have done so himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk BlueRivets Posted October 30, 2008 Share Posted October 30, 2008 Mods are the the bogeymen that you know and love, and want to give a big hug. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unflappable Drayk Xelgion Posted October 30, 2008 Share Posted October 30, 2008 Originally Posted By: Randomizer Originally Posted By: Ackrovan If you continue to insulate the moderators in an inappropriate way, you will get CANNED and then perhaps BANNED It's do not insult, torment and/or provoke the moderators. It's stll too warm to insulate the moderators for winter, except for Alorael who should have done so himself. First of all, I already have been banned. Second of all: XD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Alorael at Large Posted October 31, 2008 Share Posted October 31, 2008 I never noticed it before, but "vlish" sounds like it could be an onomatopoeia, and not a pretty one. And it's definitely one that I want to insulate myself against. —Alorael, who is pretty sure that human appendages are analogues to tentacle monsters in general. It's not the noodly appendages you have to watch out for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody Luca Posted October 31, 2008 Share Posted October 31, 2008 Originally Posted By: Predilections for Pestilence -Alorael, who is pretty sure that human appendages are analogues to tentacle monsters in general. It's not the noodly appendages you have to watch out for. That's nasty. Originally Posted By: Yelbis Eceer Nalyd Look who's talking. My bad, let's try this.I command theeI entreat theeI implore theeI beseech thee, to SPAM!!!wow, they all have the same amount of letters... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk pitchblack Posted October 31, 2008 Share Posted October 31, 2008 Originally Posted By: Delicious Vlish **Shudders right down to his vlishy bones** Wait a second... Vlish have bones? I thought that they were basically floating gasbags with tentacles (who move by farting). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Delicious Vlish Posted October 31, 2008 Author Share Posted October 31, 2008 Of course we have bones. We are mammals. We have spines too. And nipples. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unflappable Drayk Xelgion Posted October 31, 2008 Share Posted October 31, 2008 Which we squirt death rays out of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Delicious Vlish Posted October 31, 2008 Author Share Posted October 31, 2008 No silly, nipples are for nursing vlishlings. It is the tentacles that fire various rays. Now stop focusing upon my anatomy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody Luca Posted October 31, 2008 Share Posted October 31, 2008 Possibly like birds, their bones are hollow to be lighter to fly easier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unflappable Drayk Xelgion Posted October 31, 2008 Share Posted October 31, 2008 And they would have to have very few of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody Luca Posted October 31, 2008 Share Posted October 31, 2008 Probably don't need any for floating muscule, but Vlish would know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall The Ratt Posted October 31, 2008 Share Posted October 31, 2008 They need muscles to control that omnidirectional anus, duh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Delicious Vlish Posted October 31, 2008 Author Share Posted October 31, 2008 And for feisty tentacle slaps of pain. Of course, being vlish, we could barely tap you, and make you believe that you were just gobsmacked by a battle alpha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk pitchblack Posted November 1, 2008 Share Posted November 1, 2008 Yes, but even vlish must cower before the might of they Eyebeast *Shudder* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unflappable Drayk Xelgion Posted November 1, 2008 Share Posted November 1, 2008 This is painful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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