Seasoned Roamer avok Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 I want to be a shock trooper, but I don't want to look like woman! It's very annonying, I even tried to replace the pictures in the data folder with those for the lifecrafter, but it didn't work wery well, they appear to be different heights. Is anybody done this? Is there any relatively easy way (some tool maybe) to change the appearance of my character more than just the color scheme? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Dikiyoba Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 I've never done it in G4 before, but I think I can do it. You'll have to test it, though, and be warned it could mess up your game somehow. First, find the file gf4itemschars. It's in the Scripts folder. Make a back-up copy somewhere safe. Then search for shock trooper to bring up this bit of text: Code: begindefinecreature 49; cr_name = "Shock Trooper"; cr_graphic_template = 150; cr_max_health = 28; cr_max_energy = 20; cr_sound_when_slain = 106; Change cr_graphic_template = 150; to cr_graphic_template = 140; and cr_sound_when_slain = 106; to cr_sound_when_slain = 127;. This will change your shock trooper into a lifecrafter on the main playing screen. Next, save a back-up copy of the file G209 and save G208 as G209. This will change the shock trooper inventory picture into the lifecrafter inventory picture. And that should be it. You'll still see the shock trooper graphic when you go to choose your character, but in-game it'll be the lifecrafter graphic. Let Dikiyoba know if it works or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody madrigan Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 Just play as a woman. It will broaden your horizons. Or, pretend the image is of a longhaired dude in a kilt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Emperor Tullegolar Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 ... with man boobs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody madrigan Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 Quote: Originally written by Emperor Tullegolar:... with man boobs? Pecs! They're called pecs, ok??? Or, he's wearing an inverted backpack or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Dikiyoba Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 Originally by Emperor Tullegolar: Quote: ... with man boobs? A rare but not unheard of side effect of canisters, no doubt. Dikiyoba. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Student of Trinity Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 Snap out of it, soldier, and get with the program. Play as a woman like a man! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unflappable Drayk Evnissyen Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 To tell the truth, in the Avernum games: with some of the characters it's difficult to tell whether they're male or female. I sort of have to guess: Are those chest swells due to muscles or mammary glands? In regard to Geneforge: It makes me a feel kind of sexy to play as a woman. Especially that Infiltrator in G4. In fact, it sounds like somebody here is a little uncomfortable with his sexuality? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk nikki. Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 Quote: Originally written by Clavicle:It makes me a feel kind of sexy to play as a woman. Especially that Infiltrator in G4. I would like the record to show I lolled. How on earth does playing as a woman make you feel sexy?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unflappable Drayk Evnissyen Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 I don't know. Some people say things like that, so I guess I have to suppose there must be something to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk -x-OMEN-x- Posted April 24, 2008 Share Posted April 24, 2008 Well i just look at it like this. Serviles can be shcok trooper to. Just change up the stats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seasoned Roamer avok Posted April 24, 2008 Author Share Posted April 24, 2008 Quote: Originally written by Dikiyoba:I've never done it in G4 before, but I think I can do it. You'll have to test it, though, and be warned it could mess up your game somehow.First, find the file gf4itemschars. It's in the Scripts folder. Make a back-up copy somewhere safe. Then search for shock trooper to bring up this bit of text: Code: begindefinecreature 49; cr_name = "Shock Trooper"; cr_graphic_template = 150; cr_max_health = 28; cr_max_energy = 20; cr_sound_when_slain = 106; Change cr_graphic_template = 150; to cr_graphic_template = 140; and cr_sound_when_slain = 106; to cr_sound_when_slain = 127;. This will change your shock trooper into a lifecrafter on the main playing screen.Next, save a back-up copy of the file G209 and save G208 as G209. This will change the shock trooper inventory picture into the lifecrafter inventory picture.And that should be it. You'll still see the shock trooper graphic when you go to choose your character, but in-game it'll be the lifecrafter graphic.Let Dikiyoba know if it works or not. Thank you! It worked like a charm!As to why I don't like to look like a woman. I play the main character as myself. I give him my own name. And I am not perceiving myself as a woman. It's just a habit I suppose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast The Mystic Posted April 24, 2008 Share Posted April 24, 2008 For the most part, I don't mind playing female characters as long as they aren't *too* obviously feminine. After all, to your computer, your character is nothing more than a series of numbers and scipts, no matter how you may personally feel about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk Ale193 Posted April 24, 2008 Share Posted April 24, 2008 I also like to play the character as my self, so It's always bothered me that you each class had a set gender, that's why I've never played as an agent/infiltrator, or shock trooper. Avernum has always had a variety of male and female sprites and its always bothered me that geneforge dosen't. I hope that this issue is fixed in G5. On another note, Why are NPC shapers always blue? and agents brown? just wondering. on another another note, the sprite for shock troopers doesn't seem to mach its name. they don't look at all shocky or troopery to me. shock/storm troopers were first used in modern warfare during WWI by the germans, generally each squad would have several flametroopers (flamethrowers were deadly in the trenches) they would charge in small groups into the enmy trenches and cause as much damage as possible while completely exposed to enemy fire. the current sprite doesn't look very suited to heavy combat. it should have armor or something, it just doesn't look at all cool to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Dikiyoba Posted April 25, 2008 Share Posted April 25, 2008 Dikiyoba always envisioned shock troopers to be more in favor of quick battles, not pitched ones. Poor magic makes them more vulnerable--they can't cast the best buffs or rely on mental magic to scare opponents, so there's only so much damage they and their creations can take. Light armor makes more sense than heavy armor if they engage in hit-and-run tactics. Get in quickly, do heavy damage while the enemy is surprised and unprepared, then get out quickly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk Ale193 Posted April 26, 2008 Share Posted April 26, 2008 I meant light armor, such as chitin armor, not guardian style plate-mail. also, I would think that simply a tunic would be just plain stupid to wear into battle. modern soldiers don't wear plate armor, but they wear kevlar vests. shapers can get away with it because they don't usually go to the front lines and they have magic. some one that focuses on conventional combat can't wear a blouse into a warzone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Dikiyoba Posted April 28, 2008 Share Posted April 28, 2008 Maybe it's a thahdskin tunic? I suppose you're right, ideally she should be wearing some armor. In other news, it appears that Dikiyoba will be able to play as a dikiyora. Woo hoo! Now if only Dikiyoba's computer wasn't about to implode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Spidweb Posted April 28, 2008 Share Posted April 28, 2008 I called them shock troopers because, in a world of magic, I think that would be the role of wizards on the battlefield. They go in early, unload their devastating attacks to shock/awe the enemy, and retreat while the warriors/creations go in and take advantage of the disarray. I knew that people would find it odd that the shock troopers look so non-burly. But it made sense inside my brain. :-) - Jeff Vogel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall A less presumptuous name. Posted April 30, 2008 Share Posted April 30, 2008 [/QB] AWESOME!! POST HOW YOU DID IT!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Emperor Tullegolar Posted May 1, 2008 Share Posted May 1, 2008 Quote: Originally written by Spidweb: They go in early, unload their devastating attacks to shock/awe the enemy, and retreat while the warriors/creations go in and take advantage of the disarray. That seems logical to me. And even though I'm so strategist in-game myself, I'm pretty sure that's exactly how a lot of players use them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Student of Trinity Posted May 1, 2008 Share Posted May 1, 2008 Except that those kind of tactics are suited to the missing sixth class, with strong magic and moderate creations, not to the Shock Trooper. With Aura of Flames or Mass Madness you can shock and awe. With a Reaper Baton or a Puresteel Blade you can pique and annoy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenderfoot Thahd Secretive and Powerful Posted May 10, 2008 Share Posted May 10, 2008 Quote: Originally written by Dikiyoba:Maybe it's a thahdskin tunic? I suppose you're right, ideally she should be wearing some armor. In other news, it appears that Dikiyoba will be able to play as a dikiyora. Woo hoo! Now if only Dikiyoba's computer wasn't about to implode. Oh no! The worst of all breakings of the Shaper Laws!!! The extreme magical augmentation to a mere creation! UNACCEPTABLE! But then again, that's really cute Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curious Artila Khyryk-Tel Posted May 26, 2008 Share Posted May 26, 2008 Originally Posted By: Dikiyoba I've never done it in G4 before, but I think I can do it. You'll have to test it, though, and be warned it could mess up your game somehow.First, find the file gf4itemschars. It's in the Scripts folder. Make a back-up copy somewhere safe. Then search for shock trooper to bring up this bit of text: Code: begindefinecreature 49; cr_name = "Shock Trooper"; cr_graphic_template = 150; cr_max_health = 28; cr_max_energy = 20; cr_sound_when_slain = 106; Change cr_graphic_template = 150; to cr_graphic_template = 140; and cr_sound_when_slain = 106; to cr_sound_when_slain = 127;. This will change your shock trooper into a lifecrafter on the main playing screen.Next, save a back-up copy of the file G209 and save G208 as G209. This will change the shock trooper inventory picture into the lifecrafter inventory picture.And that should be it. You'll still see the shock trooper graphic when you go to choose your character, but in-game it'll be the lifecrafter graphic.Let Dikiyoba know if it works or not. Three people I bow to:Randomizer,Delicious Vlish,& you.Thanks-k- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unflappable Drayk Xelgion Posted May 26, 2008 Share Posted May 26, 2008 Originally Posted By: Secretive and Powerful Quote: Originally written by Dikiyoba:Maybe it's a thahdskin tunic? I suppose you're right, ideally she should be wearing some armor. In other news, it appears that Dikiyoba will be able to play as a dikiyora. Woo hoo! Now if only Dikiyoba's computer wasn't about to implode. Oh no! The worst of all breakings of the Shaper Laws!!! The extreme magical augmentation to a mere creation! UNACCEPTABLE! But then again, that's really cute Hmmm, Travokites can kill both sides by having intelligent Fyora lifecrafters, "Aww, its so cute!" They say and then Boosh! Kill in the face. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curious Artila Khyryk-Tel Posted May 26, 2008 Share Posted May 26, 2008 Originally Posted By: Executor Xel'Raga Originally Posted By: Secretive and Powerful Quote: Originally written by Dikiyoba:Maybe it's a thahdskin tunic? I suppose you're right, ideally she should be wearing some armor. In other news, it appears that Dikiyoba will be able to play as a dikiyora. Woo hoo! Now if only Dikiyoba's computer wasn't about to implode. Oh no! The worst of all breakings of the Shaper Laws!!! The extreme magical augmentation to a mere creation! UNACCEPTABLE! But then again, that's really cute Hmmm, Travokites can kill both sides by having intelligent Fyora lifecrafters, "Aww, its so cute!" They say and then Boosh! Kill in the face. 3 letters:LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted May 26, 2008 Share Posted May 26, 2008 Originally Posted By: Executor Xel'Raga Originally Posted By: Secretive and Powerful Quote: Originally written by Dikiyoba:Maybe it's a thahdskin tunic? I suppose you're right, ideally she should be wearing some armor. In other news, it appears that Dikiyoba will be able to play as a dikiyora. Woo hoo! Now if only Dikiyoba's computer wasn't about to implode. Oh no! The worst of all breakings of the Shaper Laws!!! The extreme magical augmentation to a mere creation! UNACCEPTABLE! But then again, that's really cute Hmmm, Travokites can kill both sides by having intelligent Fyora lifecrafters, "Aww, its so cute!" They say and then Boosh! Kill in the face. Toche Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Sudanna Posted May 26, 2008 Share Posted May 26, 2008 Nalyd believes you mean "touché". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Student of Trinity Posted May 27, 2008 Share Posted May 27, 2008 Either that or we have an auto-censor that lets in 'bugger' but deletes 'tosh'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seasoned Roamer Velius Azuma Posted May 27, 2008 Share Posted May 27, 2008 If you don't want to play as a woman...imagine your shock trooper as a male with unsightly muscle growth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unflappable Drayk Evnissyen Posted May 27, 2008 Share Posted May 27, 2008 I think I agree with Xel'Raga. The fifth faction should be the Awakened Fyoras. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk nikki. Posted May 27, 2008 Share Posted May 27, 2008 I'd prefer to playing sleeping Fyoras. I'm sure they're way more cute when they're all snuggled up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chittering Clawbug FrostBit Shaper Posted March 28, 2009 Share Posted March 28, 2009 Nikki you are right! *Anyway, if you don't like being a girl then 2 things. 1, your a girl. 2, get over it! I mean Avok* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody Feo Takahari Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 Where was I when this topic was going on? Anyways, if we've revived it for some reason, I think that as long as we've only got one image for each class, having them be males and females is much better than having them be androgynous, particularly if they're not wearing concealing hoods and such. The Guardian in the third game was just disgusting. However, as commented on in another topic, it is a little weird to only see female Agents. (Maybe, if there's a G6, male ones could have a townsperson graphic--they're in disguise.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Goldengirl Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 Actually, to all concerned, it has been discovered that Guardians are always male, and Agents are always female, with rare exceptions. This bit of information was gained from Guardian Whatsherface, Rawal's servant in Isenwood's Spire. She was one of the aforementioned "rare exceptions." Thank you, Geneforge V: Overthrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Acky Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 Yeah, GK is right. There have only been two female Guardian's in the Geneforge series. They're Rawal's servant, and Zakary's personal Guardain, Nora. Hmm, thinking back, we may finally be able to know what she meant by her staying with Zakary because he helped her greatly once. Interesting, eh? The Last Archon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt Milla Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 In G5 it's mentioned that it's rare for there to be female Guardians because it's traditionally a male vocation. It is perfectly reasonable for there to have been a male agent, just wish there was one in the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Student of Trinity Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 You can always consider that your Agent is a man disguised as a woman. A very effective disguise, I guess, but a clear case of good execution wasted on a dumb strategy, because it only makes you look like — an Agent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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