Easygoing Eyebeast VCH Posted November 1, 2006 Share Posted November 1, 2006 There are Spoilers: G4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk Pyro Posted November 1, 2006 Share Posted November 1, 2006 I think it gives too much away..but i havn't really been paying attention to the other posts..soo it may not be news to anyone else... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unflappable Drayk John S Posted November 1, 2006 Share Posted November 1, 2006 Yes, it gives away much more than was previously common knowledge. So if you haven't read the article yet, consider yourself spoiler-warned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Mea Tulpa Posted November 1, 2006 Share Posted November 1, 2006 Sweet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Kelandon Posted November 1, 2006 Share Posted November 1, 2006 The stuff it gives away only involves the beginning, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Ash Lael Posted November 1, 2006 Share Posted November 1, 2006 I'm pleasantly suprised, and cautiously optimistic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyshakk Koan Igor Posted November 1, 2006 Share Posted November 1, 2006 Wow. The Fyroa looks like a Velociraptor or something now. Click to reveal.. Using the Geneforge so early in the game is perplexing. Perhaps it is not so uber as it was in GF 1? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Ash Lael Posted November 1, 2006 Share Posted November 1, 2006 Or the whole scale of combat is dramatically ramped up. Intead of starting off fighting Fyoras, you start fighting Drayks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Dikiyoba Posted November 1, 2006 Share Posted November 1, 2006 Originally by Anasurimbor Moenghus: Quote: Wow. The Fyroa looks like a Velociraptor or something now. Dikiyoba agrees. The new graphic looks great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Alorael at Large Posted November 1, 2006 Share Posted November 1, 2006 I think I'm not giving anything away if I mention that you get to use the Geneforge in the middle of the tutorial. No, it's not your GF1 Shaper's Geneforge. —Alorael, who decided, with very little knowledge of Geneforges or how they work, that the one in the beginning is both plausible and appropriately handled. Then he tried to flip out and kill everyone with superior magical power, but at level 1 it's hard to do that even with enhanced genes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Randomizer Posted November 1, 2006 Share Posted November 1, 2006 The review is accurate except for misspelling fyora. The details about the AP system aren't complete. There is one major difference that isn't mentioned in that you can get killed in the very first section of the tutorial. Most people won't be that careless, but I explored the area and found at least 2 ways to die. It still doesn't give away that much more than Jeff has already revealed in posts and screenshots. The third way is hinted at in the tutorial, but you don't really get to it until chapter 2. The new fyora graphic is better than the old one. There is one new creation that is really nice, but you don't see it until chapter 2 when it kills you for going where you shouldn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Andraste Posted November 1, 2006 Share Posted November 1, 2006 I think the new Fyora looks kinda goofy. I always thought that they would look like Velociraptor, but I don't know. The old ones were so cute. They'll grow on me eventually I guess. This priview made me even more excited. Can't wait. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Student of Trinity Posted November 1, 2006 Share Posted November 1, 2006 At least as far as I'm concerned, the game lives up to its early promise right through. I had the same enthusiastic reaction to the demo area as this reviewer. After playing the rest of the game, the demo area still seems good, but pretty tame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Swimmin' Salmon Posted November 1, 2006 Share Posted November 1, 2006 Looks interesting. I'll give it a whirl in 2007. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Mea Tulpa Posted November 1, 2006 Share Posted November 1, 2006 Did you say chapter 2? That, too, makes me happy. Having chapter divisions has been as good an indicator of a great Spiderweb game as anything else. (See: Exile 2, Nethergate) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Student of Trinity Posted November 1, 2006 Share Posted November 1, 2006 I don't know what the chapter divisions were like before. There are no 'title pages' or anything in G4, but as I think Jeff has said, it is structured as a series of regions separated by barriers that are, for one reason or another, impenetrable, until certain major quests have been accomplished, in one way or another. So the plot does end up having a definite chapter structure. Each chapter is more tightly unified than in previous games, with most zones and most quests fitting somehow into the chapter's major plot. There's still nearly total freedom in how you want to go about things, and quite a few optional quests or places. But I think most players will be conscious of where the story is going most of the time, rather than just wandering around the landscape looking for trouble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Dintiradan Posted November 1, 2006 Share Posted November 1, 2006 (Looks at G4's weather effects.) (Looks at scenario's puny efforts to create fog.) (Weeps.) Really, the hype for this game has made me actually consider playing through the first three, just to get to the point where I can play it. I have yet to hear a bad thing about the beta. -------------------- IF I EVER BECOME AN EVIL OVERLORD: I reserve the right to execute any henchmen who appear to be a little too intelligent, powerful, or devious. However if I do so, I will not at some subsequent point shout "Why am I surrounded by these incompetent fools?!" (T-10) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Alorael at Large Posted November 1, 2006 Share Posted November 1, 2006 You don't need much background to play. Having only played demos and only GF1's demo extensively, I can still follow the plot without trouble. I'm missing a few references and returning characters, of course, but it all works. —Alorael, who thinks Geneforge's chapter system is more like the beginning few chapters of Nethergate than like E/A2. You can go anywhere you've been, for the most part, and you can explore a fair amount where you are. Getting to the next area means advancing the plot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unflappable Drayk MagmaDragoon Posted November 1, 2006 Share Posted November 1, 2006 It seems really good! All is improved, but the basic are the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk Pyro Posted November 1, 2006 Share Posted November 1, 2006 man, it almost makes me want to buy a mac just to play it asooner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyshakk Koan Lattan Posted November 1, 2006 Share Posted November 1, 2006 So I'm noticing the FPS counter in the upper-left land area seems to be ~10 -- does anybody know what the other games normally run at? That seems painfully low. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Nioca Posted November 1, 2006 Share Posted November 1, 2006 30. Though I had one game which had an FPS of 50. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt JadeWolf Posted November 2, 2006 Share Posted November 2, 2006 Charlie (always my first creation) the Fyora's trip to the graphics designing program has turned out quite badly and he's going to lose his job as first creation unless the fyora turns out to be nicer looking from other angles. Not that much can be done about his portrait in the party menu though... The review's screenshot gallery proves that Charlie's got a repaint in colour as well... will probably hack into that image file and replace it with the old cuter fyora image. Or call him Bob and act as if nothing ever happened. Quote: Originally written by Ash Lael: Or the whole scale of combat is dramatically ramped up. Intead of starting off fighting Fyoras, you start fighting Drayks. Err. I'm going to get killed more often now. But then what do we fight at the end? Killer rabbits? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Student of Trinity Posted November 2, 2006 Share Posted November 2, 2006 Fortunately, with the new forging system you are able combine an eyebeast eye, a perfect drakon eyelash, and a rotdhizon spleen ... into the Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Mea Tulpa Posted November 2, 2006 Share Posted November 2, 2006 I guess that means I'm going to have to name my character Tim. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Randomizer Posted November 2, 2006 Share Posted November 2, 2006 Jeff looked at the early beta reports about the expert area at the end (think GF1's Shapers Crypt) and a few other areas and decided we were having too easy a time. Just create a few vorpal bunnies and you'll do fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seasoned Roamer Shiboito Posted November 3, 2006 Share Posted November 3, 2006 this is gonna be y Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Nioca Posted November 3, 2006 Share Posted November 3, 2006 Quote: Originally written by Shiboito:this is gonna be y Excuse me, but what does y mean? Looking at the screenshots... The graphics are so good that I almost thought this was a big budget title. Wow. And yes, I like the new fyora graphic. Although when it's facing NW, it tends to look like a fire lizard from Avernum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Student of Trinity Posted November 3, 2006 Share Posted November 3, 2006 Uh, G4 is no Oblivion. But yes, as those screenshots indicate, the graphics are souped up some compared to previous Spiderweb games. At this point there are still a few bits that I'm really hoping are placeholders. And there are quite a few decent-looking things. The spell effects are indeed, as the review says, quite good for a shareware game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Randomizer Posted November 3, 2006 Share Posted November 3, 2006 The spell effects and new combat engine are two things from Geneforge that I wouldn't mind going over to Avernum this time. I'm still wondering what will replace the placeholder graphics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Mea Tulpa Posted November 4, 2006 Share Posted November 4, 2006 As long as the clawbugs don't look like chitrachs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt JadeWolf Posted November 5, 2006 Share Posted November 5, 2006 In this earlier screenshot , the fyora hasn't got the new graphic. Also, in the bottom left corner, there's a sort of ogre. Perhaps that is the new Battle Creation? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unflappable Drayk MagmaDragoon Posted November 5, 2006 Share Posted November 5, 2006 Maybe the "Reptile Fyora" is a new Fire Creation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk Major Posted November 5, 2006 Share Posted November 5, 2006 Quote: Also, in the bottom left corner, there's a sort of ogre. Perhaps that is the new Battle Creation? Maybe, or is it an updated golem graphics? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Alorael at Large Posted November 5, 2006 Share Posted November 5, 2006 Perhaps it is a new battle creation. —Alorael, who has made no definite statements. None whatsoever! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Randomizer Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 Jeff is still playing with the graphics. I think the Vahnatai addition was a mistake. This may change by the next beta. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unflappable Drayk MagmaDragoon Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 Quote: Originally written by Allkind:Perhaps it is a new battle creation. —Alorael, who has made no definite statements. None whatsoever! Perhaps. Perhaps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Synergy Posted November 7, 2006 Share Posted November 7, 2006 There *might* be something else you haven't seen before in the lower right corner if you look closely. Or not. -S- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk Major Posted November 7, 2006 Share Posted November 7, 2006 That's a Kyshakk. But, unfortunately I've already seen it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk Silver Shadow Posted November 11, 2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 I do note with some joy that there are little bag icons next to some of the creations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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