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Why isn't there a strong magic/medium shaping/weak weapon class?


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The Lifecrafter is basically the Shaper, the Warrior is the Guardian, and the Infiltrator is the Agent. The addition of the Shock Trooper gave us a strong shaping/medium weapon/weak magic class and the addition of the Servile gave us a strong weapon/medium magic/weak shaping class. Why isn't there a strong magic/medium shaping/weak weapon class?

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Well we already have the Shaper/Lifecrafter and it's not overpowered. It has strong Shaping and medium Magic, which both rely on intelligence. With Agents, Guardians, and the new classes, their strong and medium class skills rely on at least two different primary stats.

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The infiltrator is a good class even with weak shaping when you put no points into weapons skill. While magic/shaping/weapons would be fun, it would make all class optimization discussions largely useless because of its ability to steamroll through all opposition.

 

—Alorael, realized that the sixth class was what he wanted while playing his lifecrafter in the very first beta. Jeff said no, and his decision made sense more and more later in the game.

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It's as unlikely in G5 unless there's a big engine or paradigm shift. I'm also not sure what you mean by a pure mage. No class is a pure anything, and the lifecrafter certainly comes closest to the stand back and throw magic and/or other people at it approach.

 

—Alorael, who actually thinks a strong magic and weak everything else pure mage class would be reasonably balanced. It would be slightly tougher in places, and the infiltrator is of course superior in all ways, but it wouldn't be as hard as a weapons- or shaping-only class.

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Originally written by Dikiyoba:
I'm not positive, but I believe it was a balance issue. A fairly powerful creation army backed up by strong offensive spells and buffs would be too much.
I agree, you don't want a character class where the game would be too easy.
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Is it possible that someone openly agrees with what I have long been touting about the mighty Infiltrator? I didn't finish my Infiltrator Tales thread yet, because I messed up my game in progress. I have recently started a new game and will at least post the final results when I finish.

 

The Infiltrator as a solo magician with no points invested in shaping or battle skills becomes a massively powerful mage who can do reasonably well with a sword when necessary. It's so satisfying. You have loads of essence for creations when desired and buffs and healing and offensive spells galore. I certainly find her the most powerful choice. The Servile may be more of a tank, but it steers you more toward defensiveness (building endurance) than towards honing devastating offensive and regenerative ability.

 

Hooray for the underrated Infiltrator. You will hear more from me on her yet.

 

-S-

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I prefer agents with disposable health. For a few paltry points in shaping, or even just the right equipment, you can throw some absurd firepower at things while they try to chew on your equally absurdly buffed buddies.

 

—Alorael, who doesn't even really see the need for those buddies through most of the later game. It's nice to have a fyora in the beginning and maybe a drayk or two later, but by the end you need nothing but your plexiglass cannon.

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