BrownieMix Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 So I've been coasting along on Normal, about the win the game, and I'm thinking that it would be a good time to see how 'challenging' this optional area really is. I go into the Disposal Vault, kill a ton of creations, and think to myself that this isn't too bad... Then I meet the drakon. And the light twins. I can't kill the drakon without passing by the light twins. The light twins can't be killed if they can see each other. The drakon keeps shaping creations to bother me. The light twins have a insanely powerfull poison attack which basically kills everything I have. How in the world do I beat these guys? I'm level 50, and my 4 Rothizdons and 2 War Tralls are getting massacred. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randomizer Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 The drakon can be defeated before the pair bounded constructs. Click to reveal.. The drakon takes acid damage unless Jeff has changed it recently. Use charm on it's summoned creations and concentrate damage on the drakon and healing your creations. The pair bound constructs can be separated by using ensnaring fibers and running away. Retreat and concentrate fire on one. Avoid closing and taking area effect attacks. Click to reveal.. Essence lances or lightning aura is the best attack. Use and flee. There area with the rotghroths pens is great for runnin in circles between applying more damage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrownieMix Posted December 12, 2008 Author Share Posted December 12, 2008 To do what you're suggesting for the drakon would take HOURS - I'm lucky to do 80 acid damage to him a round, and his health barely drops...but I'll try it anyway. EDIT - I'll set aside an afternoon for this, as after 15 minutes I managed to get roughly 1/6th of his health down. Maybe I can kill him in under 2 hours, but I don't know. Charming does nothing - each of his creations have around a 90% resist rate, and I have 8 spellcraft and 8 in the mental magic skill. Also, for the record, I know this is an optional dungeon, but WTH - seriously. There is a concrete difference between difficult and close to impossible-and this is as close to impossible as I've seen anything of Jeff's, between G4, A4, A5 and now G5. I'm sure Jeff intended players to have to go past the drakon to the power spiral, but that requires killing those damn twins, which wouldn't be so hard except that you can't get close to them AND you have to split your attention to the creatures the drakon shapes AND you have to somehow separate the two AND heal yourself - and oh by the way not die. By themselves these guys would be hard but not so hard as to make me angry. You put the two of them together, however, and it's practically an exercise in futility. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randomizer Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 I got through the drakon in torment fairly quickly and had only slightly more mental magic and spellcraft than you. 80 damage a round is about right and it does work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lilith Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 Honestly, I found that the best way to deal with the pairbond constructs was to daze them at the end of every round and hope it sticks. They're less threatening if they can't actually do anything. Make and wear some artifacts to raise your mental magic and spellcraft skills if you can. Also, if you leave the zone after waking up the drakon and return, that seems to make him stop shaping creations to bother you. He didn't start again even after I entered his room and started attacking him. If you're more scrupulous than I, you may consider this an exploit, but eh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrownieMix Posted December 12, 2008 Author Share Posted December 12, 2008 VICTORY! I used Randomizer's suggestion (thanks Thuryl, but I read about yours only after I defeated the drakon) and defeated that stupid drakon in exactly 30 min 5 seconds - at least according to my iPod Touch. Now it's on to the pairbond constructs... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrownieMix Posted December 12, 2008 Author Share Posted December 12, 2008 I am the dumbest person alive. When I read about these guys in the hint book, I took Jeff's words literally - they cannot be killed if they are within line of sight with each other. However, as it turns out, this is not true. I gang-rushed one of the twins with my 4 rots and managed to get him down to almost no health. Both twins used area attacks that nearly killed my guys - but the first twin didn't heal. My rots killed him the next turn...and from then on it was EASY. I dunno if this is a bug, but I was able to kill one with the other right there. No fuss, no tricks, just straight out damage. I made that fight like 20 times harder then it had to be, simply because I assumed from what the hint books said that they had to be far away to damage or kill them. Not true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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