Rotghroth Rhapsody Feo Takahari Posted August 16, 2008 Share Posted August 16, 2008 Has anyone else noticed that there aren't any gay characters in the Geneforge series? Granted, most games lack gay characters, but there were a fair number of them in the Avernum series. ("She's my friend. My very good friend. I don't know your reason for being in Avernum, but you're getting pretty close to mine.") It just seems a little surprising, all things considered. P.S. Since serviles are hard to make and tend to get killed doing the jobs considered unsafe for humans, the Shapers presumably tried to make serviles breed as frequently as possible. They therefore would have tried to prevent them from being capable of homosexuality. However, they also tried to make the serviles incapable of rebellion, so I hope to see a pair of gay serviles among the rebels in G5, if only as an example of how the Shapers haven't been as in control of the DNA of their subjects as they thought. (Maybe a genetic inhibition against homosexuality was deleted when the canisters rewrote thir DNA?) P.P.S. One thing we're definitely not seeing is a gay drakon--they probably only mate for the purpose of continuing their species, and I somehow can't imagine such self-centered, arrogant beings falling in love as we would understand it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Randomizer Posted August 16, 2008 Share Posted August 16, 2008 Part of it is that there are very few couples in the game except for Lord Rahul and his wife in GF3. The serviles don't talk about it much and the humans that you meet tend to be loners. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt Lord Safey Posted August 16, 2008 Share Posted August 16, 2008 so the geneforge series is biased against couples? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk Brock The Archmage Posted August 16, 2008 Share Posted August 16, 2008 No, it's because the PC doesn't care so doesn't going around gossiping about who is with who. Maybe that's what Jeff should add, some good gossip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Articulate Vlish FabledOne Posted September 19, 2008 Share Posted September 19, 2008 It would be a good way to increase your "rep." Kind of like in the Avernum series. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curious Artila Arori4 Posted September 30, 2008 Share Posted September 30, 2008 Good question. However, some people might consider it wrong or offensive (hope not) that players in a game just for enjoyment are actually gay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Slawbug Posted September 30, 2008 Share Posted September 30, 2008 Jeff made a point of including some regular characters who were gay and lesbian in the Exile/Avernum trilogy. However, in Avernum 4, this has changed somewhat. Walner appears and references his sexuality vaguely: "loving the wrong people." Elspeth also seems to appear, but there is no Nance and Elspeth has almost no dialogue, so it isn't entirely clear if she's the same person. Either way, all mention of homosexuality has disappeared. There are fewer heterosexual relationships, too. But the gay people may have gone the way of the Daemon spell: nothing wrong with it, but there's no need for Jeff to get that particular set of angry emails from closed-minded parents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Acky Posted October 1, 2008 Share Posted October 1, 2008 I personaly don't care if there is any couples period. Everyone can be celebate for all I care, let alone gay. And its a shame that some parents can be so closed minded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Student of Trinity Posted October 1, 2008 Share Posted October 1, 2008 As long as they don't practice their celibacy in public. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unflappable Drayk Xelgion Posted October 1, 2008 Share Posted October 1, 2008 Originally Posted By: Student of Trinity As long as they don't practice their celibacy in public. Really? I feel very different about that. If these close-minded parents were by themselves and not affecting their child, then I wouldn't care. But the fact that they are hindering their kids spectrum of reality annoys me. "Oh, homosexual people can't exist, their not in your games or books! Who put that false, untrue idea in your head?" And if they meet a homosexual person and they recognize them as homosexual, what are they going to do? Ask if they are real or not? That's going to get a warm response. I dislike withholding knowledge of any kind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Sudanna Posted October 1, 2008 Share Posted October 1, 2008 That was sarcasm, dearie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody Luca Posted October 1, 2008 Share Posted October 1, 2008 . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Sudanna Posted October 1, 2008 Share Posted October 1, 2008 Nalyd agrees as well, but there's really no point to getting all debative (That's definitely not a word) over sarcasm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Student of Trinity Posted October 2, 2008 Share Posted October 2, 2008 I'm a little curious about what people here think 'celibacy' means. Most highly conservative parents would be happy to see celibacy openly represented in computer games as a acceptable lifestyle option. At least until their kids get into their thirties with the parents still waiting for grandchildren. That probably won't increase their tolerance for homosexuality any, but it will likely make them take a harsher line about celibacy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Dikiyoba Posted October 2, 2008 Share Posted October 2, 2008 I kind of suspect some highly conservative people would never have a problem with celibacy and others would start objecting long before their kids reached 30, with the latter being more common. Dikiyoba. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Student of Trinity Posted October 2, 2008 Share Posted October 2, 2008 Naw, the instinct for grandchildren is unimaginable when you're young, but it becomes amazingly strong for parents in their sixties. Hardly anyone is immune. But these days parents don't general get too antsy about their kids not settling down in their twenties, because they can plausibly focus on their educations and careers until at least 30. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unflappable Drayk Xelgion Posted October 2, 2008 Share Posted October 2, 2008 Originally Posted By: Nebulan True, However, I do agree with that point just made. I never understood why everyone is witholds knowledge for awkward conversations later about how life REALLY works. No, I didn't have a bad experience with this, I'm just saying... Nice face Yelbis, I can see it saying "Dearie"....lol Originally Posted By: Yelbis Eceer Nalyd Nalyd agrees as well, but there's really no point to getting all debative (That's definitely not a word) over sarcasm. Internet would be so much more understandable if we could hear tone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody Luca Posted October 2, 2008 Share Posted October 2, 2008 Oh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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