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G1- Correct ending?


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Okay, I just got the unaligned ending (you go on the sailboat, you accomplish nothing) in G1. I was wondering- I seem to recall multiple people mentioning that this ending is the most "correct" one to lead in to G2. But if that was true, wouldn't the fact that Trajkov was in the middle of taking over the Shapers be a big plot element in G2?

 

So, a more correct ending would be one in which you kill Trajkov, then escape on the sailboat unaligned immediately afterwords right?

 

EDIT: I had an extra comma in there.

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I thought the unaligned ending was to kill Trajkov, destroy the Geneforge, and then leave. If you don't destroy the Geneforge, the Shapers that the council sends to Sucia will be able to find & use it; I don't remember that being the case in G2.

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It's been a long time, but Dikiyoba thinks any ending where the Geneforge is destroyed results in the Obeyers being accepted by the Shapers and any ending where someone uses the Geneforge results in the Awakened being able to live freely. So Dikiyoba is not sure any ending is entirely correct.

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I played G2, the game said that the Awakened had to flee or die, the Takers had it worse, the Shapers destroyed the Geneforge themselves, and there was no mention of Trajkov, so I think he was killed. The Obeyers were killed too.

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Regarding Mystic (still can't figure out the quote function, sorry): actually, Barzahl says that he was among those sent to destroy the Geneforge after the protagonist of the first game discovered its existence. He did so, but he copied the design. Therefore, it must not have been destroyed by the hero. Other clues: In game 2, some servile (sorry, don't remember who) references "another [shaper] who did not treat us as slaves." Therefore, the first hero didn't join the Obeyers. Also, the first Trakovite in game 4, Dewey or whatever his name was, talked of how Trajkov "sacrificed himself" in a way that implied he used the Geneforge! (Maybe canonically you choose that dialogue option about "It was a mistake to help you, Trajkov." But were you really expected to survive that fight?)

 

All in all, this seems like a question only one man can answer. Don't be shy, Mr. Vogel--we may be pissed at you over Blades of Avernum, but we're still grateful you created Geneforge and satisfied everyone's need for no-holds-barred deathmatch Pokemon!

 

P.S. In case he doesn't answer, hehe, I just remembered a possible way around the conundrum with either the Awakened being free or the Obeyers becoming a new level of servile slave. If you kill either Ellrah or Rydell, their group will get a different ending. Maybe our hero was a Taker before turning on Trajkov.

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Drewry's information on Trajkov is definitely not reliable. He doesn't even know Trajkov's correct name, and pretty much admits it's impossible to know what really happened.

 

Also, Jeff is not around on the board very often, so if you really want to ask him a question, you'll have to send him an e-mail. spidweb (at) spiderwebsoftware (dot) com

 

Dikiyoba.

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I tried doing that with Easss in GF2 yesterday, and it was just a little more effort than I wanted to put in. The GF should be stronger: if you let the enemy use it, fighting that enemy should be like fighting Rentar in A3 (possible, but obscenely hard).

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...Or else the game should provide some reasonable explanation for your character's extraordinary talent.

 

I'm not complaining about the extraordinary talent I have in SW games... it's just that I wish I knew a good reason why I should be in possession of it, and why nobody but me seems to notice that I'm unduly powerful.

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Originally Posted By: Safey
Originally Posted By: Brock The Archmage
I killed Trajkov with little effort. I was an agent and had no creations. It's all about using the battlefield to your advantage, and what the plan of attack is. tongue


I usually let him use the geneforge then kill him


I did let him use the Geneforge, I just go to every area and level up a lot.

EDIT: fighting Rentar in A3 was insane, and if I remember right it was worse in E3.
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Originally Posted By: feo takahari
Regarding Mystic (still can't figure out the quote function, sorry): actually, Barzahl says that he was among those sent to destroy the Geneforge after the protagonist of the first game discovered its existence. He did so, but he copied the design. Therefore, it must not have been destroyed by the hero.

If you say so. I'll have to tave your word in any case, since I normally don't bother with canon.

Also, I've had a thought: Wouldn't the design for the original geneforge have been written down somewhere on Sucia Island? The shapers of the time probably wouldn't have wanted that knowledge to be totally lost. Barzahl says he destroyed the geneforge and copied the design, but could he have therefore stolen the original plans instead? It certainly seems possible from my point of view, unless Zakary can back up what Barzahl said.
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