Ineffable Wingbolt Upon Mars. Posted December 15, 2006 Share Posted December 15, 2006 So drakys are normally born all rogue so, how can be living crafts be so different (and not being intently borned rogue) and what would have caused that?and as further i can nock the devil down would draky be shaped from are they just real creations or shaped reptiles? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk Leftover Sauerkraut Posted December 15, 2006 Share Posted December 15, 2006 I have no idea what you mean by "real creations" or "shaped reptiles". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Sudanna Posted December 15, 2006 Share Posted December 15, 2006 All Shaped beings are creations, reptile or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Articulate Vlish Ijuuin Enzan Posted December 16, 2006 Share Posted December 16, 2006 I think what he's getting at is 'are Drayks pre-existing beings altered with Shaping or are they built from scratch?' to which the answer, as far as I can discern, is 'yes'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt Upon Mars. Posted December 16, 2006 Author Share Posted December 16, 2006 well drakys were or not shaped from natural beings is what i meant i am sorry for my not very advanced eloquence. if all creation where not build from pure essence could this explain the rogue thoughts in a creation. So that could explain why creations if not under the the control of a shaper: that would explain why creations are meant to be at a surtain degree free. and if all drakys where all banned to create why shapers create living crafts which are allterations of drakys? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk Leftover Sauerkraut Posted December 16, 2006 Share Posted December 16, 2006 Well they are pure creations. In GF3 on the loding screen, it has a picture of a drayk that says "base material fyora". They are a highly modified fyora, but I suspect the idea of a fyora was based on a living creature. The Drakons or modified drayks are technically banned. Some shapers have just no respect for the law. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Randomizer Posted December 16, 2006 Share Posted December 16, 2006 After drayks were created, in GF1 there is some mention when you meet one, it was decided that they were too intelligent and independent. Thus drayks were barred as a new creation, but existing ones were sometimes allowed to continue out their natural lifespan in isolated regions like Sucia Island. By GF2, the drayks had used shaping techniques on their offspring to create the first drakons. These drakons both bred and used shaping to create the ur-drakons. It is the ur-drakons that were responsible for the Rebellion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Dikiyoba Posted December 16, 2006 Share Posted December 16, 2006 Originally by opon mars: Quote: if all creation where not build from pure essence could this explain the rogue thoughts in a creation. So that could explain why creations if not under the the control of a shaper: that would explain why creations are meant to be at a surtain degree free. From what I remember as the gist of previous debates, complex creations like drayks and drakons are grown in vats and other equipment. This gives them greater longevity and doesn't tie up a Shaper's essence. It also gives them more intelligence and free will. Quote: and if all drakys where all banned to create why shapers create living crafts which are allterations of drakys? I've wondered this myself. Either living crafts are so different from drayks that they are still allowed, or Jeff made an error. Quote: i am sorry for my not very advanced eloquence. I can see some improvement already. Just one thing: the creation you are talking about is a drayk, not a draky. Dikiyoba keeps reading this topic title as a corruption of "Drakey [Drakefyre] psychology". Marathon levels and vahnatai, oh boy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt Upon Mars. Posted December 19, 2006 Author Share Posted December 19, 2006 Hum... thanks for your replies they help me to deduct this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt Upon Mars. Posted December 19, 2006 Author Share Posted December 19, 2006 Well living crafts are special sort of draky so their function could be only there to obey a shapers commands and to store maps and destinations to disembark goods and passengers so there minds wouldn't be as evolved as the draky's are. Draky's were made to be extremely resilient, physically tough, and smart in time of war a draky would be the prime battle creation working out how to break down enemies defenses and lines. This free thinking ability may have made them rouge. Any way so what would have first shapers shaped out of to make a draky or a fiery creation and as i am at it what would be the other creations shaped out of ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk Good Canisters Posted December 20, 2006 Share Posted December 20, 2006 Don't double post please, edit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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