Universe Posted August 19, 2007 Share Posted August 19, 2007 Have a look here . Geneforge 3 and Geneforge 4 are mentioned, though a lot lower than I would have expected. Excerpts: 53. Geneforge 3 - This game is great. It's epic and nostalgic. Craving a non Japanese non Diablo RPG fix? This is the goods right here. - Mike Kasprzak 82. Geneforge 4: Rebellion It's really cliche, but they don't make RPGs like this anymore in the retail PC gaming world. - Brian Clair Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xaiya Posted August 19, 2007 Share Posted August 19, 2007 These games are old style. And I like them that way. Plus, these games can pack hours of entertainment. Unless your ET. Also, they are turn based (in combat). So that is great if you need a break from real time action. Oh, and G4 had to be one of the best games Spiderweb Software made. A2 is in the same place. Edit -As a comment on Japanese RPGs, I find it interesting on how the Japanese (in many games) give their characters revealing clothing. Especially the females. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dikiyoba Posted August 19, 2007 Share Posted August 19, 2007 G3 didn't place too badly, all things considered. G4 placed surprisingly low, but it didn't score much lower. Dikiyoba. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xaiya Posted August 19, 2007 Share Posted August 19, 2007 Quote: G4 placed surprisingly low Were the people drunk when they rated it? Edit -I assume you mean low as in bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sudanna Posted August 20, 2007 Share Posted August 20, 2007 Geneforge? Cliche? Au contraire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lilith Posted August 20, 2007 Share Posted August 20, 2007 Quote: Originally written by Thoughts in Chaos:Geneforge? Cliche? Au contraire. I think they're saying that the phrase "they don't make games like this any more" is clichéd, not that Geneforge is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
La paix Posted August 21, 2007 Share Posted August 21, 2007 I'm always a bit surprised at harsh criticism (heck, any criticism involving graphics) towards Spiderweb's games. Personally, I just don't understand what the deal is with the graphics! They add a nice touch to the games and give it a nice, retro-y feel. The current graphics (A4 and GF4) are excellent, wonderful, and pretty in my opinion. Perhaps I just haven't experienced "Hard Core RPG's" but I'm guessing they don't have moral dilemmas, a deep and involved story, or any of the other things that make me love games created by Spiderweb Software. Or perhaps I'm just the harsh critic! Originally written by Iffy: Quote: I find it interesting how the Japanese (in many games) give the characters revealing clothing. Especially the females. Ugh! I've noticed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retlaw May Posted August 21, 2007 Share Posted August 21, 2007 How can G3 and G4 be there and not have G1 there? G1 was by far the best of the four. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xaiya Posted August 21, 2007 Share Posted August 21, 2007 Quote: Ugh! I've noticed! Actually, I completely don't mind most of the time when they look good (note that I am a 13 year old male). Edit -However, I have noticed that in Final Fantasy X-2, Rikku looks good no matter what dressphere she is in. Well, at least for the ones I have seen her in. (I have seen her in white mage, and warrior. Though I haven't gotten a clear look at the other ones). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dikiyoba Posted August 22, 2007 Share Posted August 22, 2007 Originally by Retlaw May: Quote: How can G3 and G4 be there and not have G1 there? G1 was by far the best of the four. It only includes the games released in the past 36 months. G1 may be great, but it's too old to make that list. Dikiyoba. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retlaw May Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 Ah, I guess I should have read the list before posting, but I felt that a list that rated G3 over G1 would not be worth it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman1985 Posted August 25, 2007 Share Posted August 25, 2007 I don't agree with the lists and think G3 and G4 should be higher up, but people (a.k.a. americans) don't like moral dilemmas they have enough of them through their entire lives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lattan Posted August 26, 2007 Share Posted August 26, 2007 That list doesn't look to be worth much. It's the top 100 of 368 games reviewed in the last three years, most of the games at the top look fairly dumb, and the aclaimed Darwinia is ranked 60th. And just looking through the authors, who you're rated by and the kind of games they like seems to have a profound impact on your placement in the list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jared Posted August 26, 2007 Share Posted August 26, 2007 its called anima and its prety messed up japinese anima Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman1985 Posted August 26, 2007 Share Posted August 26, 2007 Quote: Actually, I completely don't mind most of the time when they look good (note that I am a 13 year old male). I find this just plain creepy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corrupted One Posted September 1, 2007 Share Posted September 1, 2007 Sometimes the old play things are the best! Hand painted ball in a cup! Barring that geneforge 1 is an ageless classic that changed my perspective on what original meant. Instead of taking an already used idea, and recycling it or adding some gimmick to it, it took a complete fresh concept and constructed what i consider to be one of the greatest fantasy rpg's to grace the internet. And nothing anyone says can change my opinion of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DokEnkephalin Posted September 24, 2007 Share Posted September 24, 2007 Quote: Originally written by Iffy:I find it interesting on how the Japanese (in many games) give their characters revealing clothing. Especially the females. I find it interesting, too. It's a tawdry gimmick that I would not complain about if Jeff were to utilize it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ming Posted October 4, 2007 Share Posted October 4, 2007 Start a new game in any recent Avernum. Check out "Cordelia's" dress slit! Gotta thank Phil Foglio for that, I'd guess. After all, he did pen XXXenophile... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeran Korak Posted October 4, 2007 Share Posted October 4, 2007 Quote: Originally written by Ming:Start a new game in any recent Avernum. Check out "Cordelia's" dress slit! Agreed. I could understand it if it was only half-way up to allow faster movment. But sadly that dress is a dead loss. The standard graphic dress for the female elf mage in Baldures gate is even worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taliesin Posted October 4, 2007 Share Posted October 4, 2007 Yeah, I was a little surprised to see that in a Spiderweb game. No wonder Oliver (A4) said what he did about Avernite women... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
La paix Posted October 6, 2007 Share Posted October 6, 2007 Quote: Originally written by Taliesin:Yeah, I was a little surprised to see that in a Spiderweb game. No wonder Oliver (A4) said what he did about Avernite women... Ha! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman1985 Posted October 6, 2007 Share Posted October 6, 2007 I have all the Balder's Gates and Icewind Dales and all of the women graphics are half naked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randomizer Posted October 6, 2007 Share Posted October 6, 2007 That's because they are based on TSR (currently a division of Hasbro) books. Look at almost any cover of The Dragon with a female on it and see how sexist they are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punctuation rains from the heavens Posted October 6, 2007 Share Posted October 6, 2007 TSR certainly didn't help anything -- and neither did WotC for that matter -- but I think it's the gaming community as a whole that is sexist. It's a very different kind of sexism from what we have in business or politics, one that comes more from confusion and awkwardness than domination or hatred; but it's no less ugly in expression. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lepus timidus Posted October 7, 2007 Share Posted October 7, 2007 Well, I have no problem whatsoever with this suppposed 'sexism'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman1985 Posted October 7, 2007 Share Posted October 7, 2007 You should probably edit that before someone kicks your ass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taliesin Posted October 7, 2007 Share Posted October 7, 2007 He's just being honest, I think. Not that I approve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman1985 Posted October 7, 2007 Share Posted October 7, 2007 Sometimes honesty is inappropriate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xaiya Posted October 7, 2007 Share Posted October 7, 2007 Well, you can be inappropriate too. And this thread is getting of-topic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taliesin Posted October 7, 2007 Share Posted October 7, 2007 Quote: Originally written by Starman1985:Sometimes honesty is inappropriate. Which is why I disapprove. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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