Ineffable Wingbolt Upon Mars. Posted January 3, 2007 Share Posted January 3, 2007 What do think about the shaper/rebel war and who would you be in that war? what would be your choices? And what do you think about war. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk Good Canisters Posted January 3, 2007 Share Posted January 3, 2007 I would join the rebels if they fixed their system and worked better together, or a different sect which allowed lots of canisters and alterations. Otherwise, I'd just be like Sharon in G2, or some insane, unaligned shaper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Sudanna Posted January 3, 2007 Share Posted January 3, 2007 Nalyd would be a Shaper, without a doubt. Besides the fact that they're winning, their rewards are superior by far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt Aequitas Posted January 3, 2007 Share Posted January 3, 2007 The rebels have several organisation errors, so I'd have to say Shapers for now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Emperor Tullegolar Posted January 3, 2007 Share Posted January 3, 2007 Assuming Tullegolite wasn't an option? Hmm, do I hate creations more than I crave power? I think so. I'd have to go with Shapers. I would be willing to give up canisters if it mean not having to bow to drakon scum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyshakk Koan Alberich Posted January 3, 2007 Share Posted January 3, 2007 Given the attitude that seems to be built into the Drakons -- perhaps as a result of their shaping themselves -- I wouldn't have much choice. Neither the Drakons nor the Shapers are much interested in leaving the rest of the world alone, so neutrality would not be a good option. Moreover, a civilized (though unfree) world in which Shaping is controlled and canisters are banned has a better chance of evolving into something I like than is an anarchic hell-on-earth dominated by the latest generation of ego-mad unearthly-powerful inhuman carnivore-gods. I would doubtless end up as a staff officer for the Shapers. And I would probably die in a soon-forgotten battle against an obscure sect of canister users. (But while I lived I would press endlessly for reforms of Shaper tactics - "Don't act like CRPG clay ducks, people! If a stranger comes in and kills you two at a time, either pursue him, yes, even over the edge of the screen, or consolidate somewhere else! Or at least, you know, fortify a little better...") To answer the other question, I think war is a dreadful thing, but that submitting to the rule of the Drakons (let alone whatever comes after them) would be worse. "Nobody likes to fight but somebody had better know how." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt Suspicious Vlish Posted January 3, 2007 Share Posted January 3, 2007 I'd definitely choose the Rebellion over the Shapers. Viva La Rebellion! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody Retlaw May Posted January 3, 2007 Share Posted January 3, 2007 Definately the Shapers, the Drakons use the same methods and are more extreme than the shapers. And, if I am allowed to bring G4 into the picture, you see how little they care for human life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast The Mystic Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 I don't really care for war, whether real of fictional. In the shaper/rebel war, I'd prefer to be an unaligned shaper, far from the fighting as possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Dikiyoba Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 Now that the Awakened are gone, Dikiyoba will have to vote for the Shapers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt Lord Safey Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 you should have made this a poll. I would join the shapers simply becuase their more stable. I don't like the idea of constanly checking to make sure my freinds are my freinds and my enemies are my enemies. That may be my weaknes against that kind of internal strife/infilitration. I choose to compenstate by join an orgnization that is less likely to betray me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Randomizer Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 I'm for the Rebellion since it forces change and you can always eliminate the worst aspects of it later. Shapers would keep things the same and leave the lesser people to survive in the aftermath. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Emperor Tullegolar Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 Do all you suckers who say you're going with the rebels realize that you're going to be drakon slaves? Not only will you be at their every command during the war, but odds are should they win, you'll be reduced to slavery. They even prefer serviles to humans! You're screwed if you join them. At least you can hope for a somewhat normal life if you join the Shapers. Hell, if you serve them half decently, they may even let you join their ranks as a full shaper! The Mystic, and people like him, they're just cowards. No matter who wins, they lose, because you will be found eventually, no matter how hard you try to hide. The winners will find you, and they will most likely kill you for not supporting them during the war. Or, if they find you while the war is still going on, they will probably not give you the benefit of the doubt, assume you are a spy, and kill you. Thus die all cowards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Randomizer Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 Even a lousy apprentice in GF4 can kill a drakon. I did it enough times. With all the cryodrayks and drayks that hate the drakons and ur-drakons, it won't be that hard to pull them down. All they have going for them are the Unbound. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk Aeshi Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 I'd choose the shapers (but make keeping myself alive my first priority obviously) If I could choose anything though it would be a Tullegolite (But only to stop Emperor Tullegolar from killing me or worse ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk Good Canisters Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 ET, how would rebel shapers become drakon slaves? Any shaper that followed throughout the entire war and survived would have consumed literally hundreds of canisters and partaken in multiple alterations, and maybe even used the Geneforge! They would be stronger than the PC who used Sucia Island's Geneforge, and would be literally unstoppable, even by the "Geneforged" Ur-Drakons. They would never become the slaves of creations, it would be below them. They would kill their past "friends" as they probably have no will to "live" by now, (see Master Hoge and Litalia, how corrupted they were, extremely powerful but without a speck of humanity). I would only join the rebels because I get power, in canisters, alterations and the Geneforge. Chances are, if I'm a shaper, they wouldn't allow me any of that. Loyal shapers have problems shaping 4th tier creations and casting powerful spells. You could only "survive" as a Loyalist as a Guardian. The loss of humanity is a great price to pay, but for me, it is fair. It may even be welcome should the rebels then betray me; I'll have no second thoughts should I need to kill them. If I do manage to survive, (as canister insane shapers no longer fear death) I would create my own empire, as the Sucia Island shaper who used the Geneforge did. Why should I care about what happens to other people if I have godly power and no way to think about what I have done? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast The Mystic Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 Quote: Originally written by Emperor Tullegolar:The Mystic, and people like him, they're just cowards. Judge not, lest you be judged. Everyone chooses a side (or no side) for different reasons. For me, cowardice is not among them. I just don't like fighting outside of computer games, that's all. Be thankful you called me a coward in the virtual realm, for if it had been to my face, I'd eat you alive. Quote: Originally written by Emperor Tullegolar:No matter who wins, they lose, because you will be found eventually, no matter how hard you try to hide. How little you know me. I can hide in plain sight, and have been known to move quickly and silently, despite the fact that I appear slow and awkward to most people. You may have passed me on the street, and would never be the wiser for it. Plus, "The Mystic" is an old nickname of mine, and not without reason. I'm mildly clairvoyant, and the trait runs in the family. Therefore, there's a good chance I'd be long gone before I'd be found. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Emperor Tullegolar Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 Quote: Originally written by Good Canisters: ET, how would rebel shapers become drakon slaves? I base this assumption on the fact that in Geneforge 4, the human side of the rebellion (even with their geneforge) was crushed, while the drakon side fought on. The drakons are more powerful than the rebel humans in some way, be it physically or strategically. And, when the Shapers came to finish off Southforge, the drakons were nowhere to be found. They let the humans die because they thought they were weak and insignificant, and maybe they were. The rebellion relies too much on the drakons to ever be hospitable to a human like myself. Quote: Originally written by The Mystic: I'd eat you alive. No you wouldn't. You don't fight outside of computer games, remember? You can hide if you want, you may even succeed. But I reserve the right to call you a coward for sitting by and doing nothing while the innocent suffer and world falls apart around you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Drakefyre Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 Ahem. Let's drift somewhat back towards the topic at hand and not an argument about who will kick whose ass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt Upon Mars. Posted January 5, 2007 Author Share Posted January 5, 2007 What are leaving me to die ? NO!!!!! that 's not possible!!! wait it is a discussion not reality i mean we can take sides in a arguments and in a discussion a discussion us a way to express or feelings and away to make relationships on the friendly side it can be a battle field where powerful wizards soldiers and creations of all types kill each others but it has a certain limit . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast The Mystic Posted January 6, 2007 Share Posted January 6, 2007 Quote: Originally written by Drakefyre:Let's drift somewhat back towards the topic at hand and not an argument about who will kick whose ass. Agreed. Though in my opinion, this topic should probably be closed before it turns into a war of words. I, for one, am abandoning this thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt Upon Mars. Posted January 6, 2007 Author Share Posted January 6, 2007 War of the worlds what do mean? the total inhalation of snivelization? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Drakefyre Posted January 6, 2007 Share Posted January 6, 2007 Quote: Originally written by upon mars:War of the worlds what do mean? the total inhalation of snivelization? This is just too precious. Now I'm pretty sure that you're doing this on purpose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Emperor Tullegolar Posted January 6, 2007 Share Posted January 6, 2007 I've suspected that for a while now. Some of his crap is just too good to be true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Micawber Posted January 6, 2007 Share Posted January 6, 2007 "Snivelization" is a give-away. No dictionary on earth contains that word. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Fort Posted January 7, 2007 Share Posted January 7, 2007 It's hard for me to determine what exactly causes upon mars to make his linguistic errors. His errors just aren't very consistent, but I'm not sure what that means. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Nioca Posted January 7, 2007 Share Posted January 7, 2007 He's said somewhere that he's dyslexic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Drakefyre Posted January 7, 2007 Share Posted January 7, 2007 Dyslexia is no excuse for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt Lord Safey Posted January 7, 2007 Share Posted January 7, 2007 Those humans who join the rebels must be deluded. Geneforge drakons don't care about each other much less those who the consider lesser beings and are constly ploting each others demise even though they are allegadly part of the same army. To be someone they considered insinifcant and join would be out of an act of desperation or deluded that they offer freedom. As much as one can critize the shapers if you follow their rules they treat you well even if you don't paticulary like them. Internal politics for shapers is even easier being on the wrong side of a political battle among shapers means ending up on the wrong side the world. Being on the wrong side of a political battle among the rebellion means being on the wrong side of a sword. The shapers don't need to destroy the rebillion they don't need to, the rebellion will do that for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Fort Posted January 7, 2007 Share Posted January 7, 2007 From what I know, the Shapers still have the most resources and the most organized army, so I think they should eventually win. They've ruled the world for a while and seem to be doing a pretty good job of it. Drakefyre, I have no experience dealing with dyslexics who type a lot in online posts. To be honest, that last statement seems to be an oxymoron. But maybe an effect of dyslexia is extremely inconsistent spelling and grammar errors, weird word omissions, and almost poetic line breaks. Who knows? wutever ya know cause im not gonna ride on him w/o the info, awight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Lilith Posted January 7, 2007 Share Posted January 7, 2007 Armed conflict! Ahoy! Gadzooks, each of you! What useful purpose does it serve? None whatsoever! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Kelandon Posted January 7, 2007 Share Posted January 7, 2007 I get it (for once). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt Upon Mars. Posted January 12, 2007 Author Share Posted January 12, 2007 No it isn't it is a word with different meaning i wanted to point out in a humoristic way a default in the human being : i associate to snivel with civilization . And for inhalation i mean the destruction of the world . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyshakk Koan Alberich Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 This adds new meaning to the phrase, "I didn't inhale..." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt Upon Mars. Posted January 14, 2007 Author Share Posted January 14, 2007 LOL, YOU ARE TOO FUNNY I AM GOBBING ON MY MAC, I AM GOING TO DIE. You didn't inhale what? marowwawa? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Kelandon Posted January 14, 2007 Share Posted January 14, 2007 Quote: Originally written by upon mars:You didn't inhale what? The fumes of earthly destruction, apparently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Dikiyoba Posted January 14, 2007 Share Posted January 14, 2007 Dikiyoba loves the smell of earthly destruction in the morning... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyshakk Koan Vicheron Posted February 18, 2007 Share Posted February 18, 2007 I'd have to side with the Shapers. The rebels are just way too dangerous. They give power to people who haven't earned it, and obviously many of those people don't deserve it. They don't have nearly enough experience using their power and are prone to making huge mistakes. As cruel as the Shaper ways are, it's based on years of experience and expertise, so they have effective ways of dealing with mistakes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody Retlaw May Posted February 18, 2007 Share Posted February 18, 2007 You shouldn't be messing with necromancy, the Shapers forbid it . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt Upon Mars. Posted March 7, 2007 Author Share Posted March 7, 2007 But i mess with dead bodies so no one can forbid this !!!!! Why is necromancia is forbidenn? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Sudanna Posted March 7, 2007 Share Posted March 7, 2007 Topic necromancy. Posting in topics that nobody has touched for a long time. Like what you just did. Try to notice when the last post in the topic was. Better yet, only post in topics with the green circle next to them on the list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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