Mr.Bookworm Posted April 16, 2006 Share Posted April 16, 2006 While I was looking around, I noticed several posts saying the shapers are either not human, or a different "type" of human. Is this correct? And if it is, is there is, where can you find evidence? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolphin Posted April 16, 2006 Share Posted April 16, 2006 As far as I know Shapers are just highly trained humans. It says you went though years of training, and that few people become Shapers. I'll fish around and see if I can find anything more solid than that, but at no times have I seen anything call the Shapers a unique species. Edit: As far as where to find evidence the best place I can think to look is in the intro text, as was well as throughout the dialogue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dikiyoba Posted April 16, 2006 Share Posted April 16, 2006 In G1, the Shapers and the Sholai are described as being of different ethnicities. In all three, Shapers and other humans who use too many canisters are described in various ways as lacking humanity or as less human. Dikiyoba doesn't think that Shapers could maintain themselves as a distinct race, if only because there is no evidence of Shaper children, natural or shaped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Ringer Posted April 16, 2006 Share Posted April 16, 2006 The Shapers are usually referred to as a "sect," suggesting that they are human. However, using the term "humans" refers to outsiders -- non-Shapers -- only. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ripper Posted April 16, 2006 Share Posted April 16, 2006 I agree that it doesn't seem reasonable that Shapers are a different race from outsider humans, but my only question is, why do agents then have green skin? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dareva Posted April 16, 2006 Share Posted April 16, 2006 Quote: Originally written by The Ripper:I agree that it doesn't seem reasonable that Shapers are a different race from outsider humans, but my only question is, why do agents then have green skin? WAG: the Agents all have a weird form of anemia that makes them green-skinned? I seem to recall something like this in Shakespeare, but it's vague and I'm lazy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagmaDragoon Posted April 16, 2006 Share Posted April 16, 2006 Quote: Originally written by The Ripper:...why do agents then have green skin? And why all Agents are womans? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dareva Posted April 16, 2006 Share Posted April 16, 2006 Quote: Originally written by MagmaDragoon: Quote: Originally written by The Ripper:...why do agents then have green skin? And why all Agents are womans? Because women are sneakier? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dikiyoba Posted April 16, 2006 Share Posted April 16, 2006 Because it's easier to come up with female names for agents than to create a male agent graphic. Dikiyoba has heard of anemia causing jaundice but not green skin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dareva Posted April 16, 2006 Share Posted April 16, 2006 Quote: Originally written by Dikiyoba:Because it's easier to come up with female names for agents than to create a male agent graphic. Dikiyoba has heard of anemia causing jaundice but not green skin. I just found this. I don't know how reliable it would be, but at least it's something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaper Anton Posted April 17, 2006 Share Posted April 17, 2006 It sounds like alian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Ringer Posted April 17, 2006 Share Posted April 17, 2006 Well now we have to ask Esther about her menses. Incidentally, I just tried to use Lankan's canister in Diki--I mean, Diwaniya's basement. And it hurt me, saying that "this was clearly not meant for Shaper use." So perhaps they are different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dikiyoba Posted April 17, 2006 Share Posted April 17, 2006 Originally by Nick Ringer: Quote: Incidentally, I just tried to use Lankan's canister in Diki--I mean, Diwaniya's basement. And it hurt me, saying that "this was clearly not meant for Shaper use." So perhaps they are different. I thought (though I may be wrong) that Lankan's canister was designed specifically to change him and no one else. So the genes the canister changes would be specific to him only. Dikiyoba the dikiyora doesn't have any canisters in Dikiyoba's basement. Creations can't use canisters! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolphin Posted April 17, 2006 Share Posted April 17, 2006 That canister is indeed meant for Lankan, and no one else. Though you are unable to use it yourself you might want to take it with you. Be careful not to let Lankan see you with it though, as he can be a bit canister happy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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