Rotghroth Rhapsody Overwhelming Posted July 13, 2004 Share Posted July 13, 2004 Well, it's not for Boa but can be used for it. It's a program that can substitute notepad, but that comes with many, many other options. Two of them, my favourite, are: - Colour coding (check this screenshot of a BoA script: ) - It can group text files in groups. So I can have a group/folder in notepad for each scenario/town/outdoors/whatever you want scripts. So I just have to open the program, open the folder and there are all scripts for my scenario. No need to browse for each file. You can get the program here: Programmers Notepad - the free, open source, text editor with special features for coders . Let me know what you think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk UA Posted July 13, 2004 Share Posted July 13, 2004 It's amazingly bloated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody Overwhelming Posted July 13, 2004 Author Share Posted July 13, 2004 Quote: Originally written by Shining Lightbulb:It's amazingly bloated. I just wanted to share what I found, and contribute to the community. Thank you for your kind reply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Kelandon Posted July 13, 2004 Share Posted July 13, 2004 Quote: Originally written by Overwhelming:Let me know what you think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody Overwhelming Posted July 13, 2004 Author Share Posted July 13, 2004 Quote: Originally written by Just Call Me Kel: Quote: Originally written by Overwhelming:Let me know what you think. Humm... How should I interpret this? That you'r empty headed or that you don't think at all? Edit: just joking, mind you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk Yellow Sub Posted July 13, 2004 Share Posted July 13, 2004 Uh, I, will, stick to my BiBEdit... Although color coding would be good, slashs // with text after, IMO, is a little gooder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curious Artila 20eyes Posted July 14, 2004 Share Posted July 14, 2004 Cool, I'm switching over to this from EditPad. Great little proggie. If the devs ever document custom scheme creation (like they say they're planning on doing at the site), I might even make a scheme for Avernumscript. I went ahead and downloaded the SDK and compiler in anticipation of this. The C scheme is handy enough for now, though. Syntax highlighting rocks. Good find! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Lilith Posted July 14, 2004 Share Posted July 14, 2004 I believe that Kel was pointing out that you invited opinions, and that UA (Shining Lightbulb) gave you his, and that you went snarky at him for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody Overwhelming Posted July 14, 2004 Author Share Posted July 14, 2004 Use the ANSI C hilighting. You can customize the colors (like I did and you saw in the screenshot). Very cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody Overwhelming Posted July 14, 2004 Author Share Posted July 14, 2004 Quote: Originally written by Thuryl:I believe that Kel was pointing out that you invited opinions, and that UA (Shining Lightbulb) gave you his, and that you went snarky at him for it. I know. That's why I said I was just joking. About the other comment, it wasn't suited for what was asked. A comment like: that program has no use, I don't like it, I prefer the one I'm using, etc would be better, than just commenting the way I exposed the product, no it itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk UA Posted July 14, 2004 Share Posted July 14, 2004 Unlike some people, I don't need to have my code highlighted all pretty colours in order to be able to understand it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody Overwhelming Posted July 14, 2004 Author Share Posted July 14, 2004 Quote: Originally written by Shining Lightbulb:Unlike some people, I don't need to have my code highlighted all pretty colours in order to be able to understand it. I think no one needs the colouring to understand. It just makes easier and more organised. It's a matter of preference too. Not a matter of ability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Lilith Posted July 14, 2004 Share Posted July 14, 2004 He wasn't talking about your post, he was actually describing the program itself as "bloated". It's a fairly common term among programmers to refer to a program with more features than anyone will ever want, and it's a fair bit more constructive than "that program has no use". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curious Artila 20eyes Posted July 14, 2004 Share Posted July 14, 2004 Quote: Originally written by Shining Lightbulb:Unlike some people, I don't need to have my code highlighted all pretty colours in order to be able to understand it. Don't tell me... You're one of those diehard purists who refuses to play Nethack with the colors enabled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fledgling Fyora Blank83 Posted July 14, 2004 Share Posted July 14, 2004 Crimson Editor has color coding as well, and it can be easily customized... you just need to make an spc and key file for the language. IT comes with 20 or so languages, so there are plenty of examples to look at, but I can't really decipher how they work. Otherwise I'd make one for Avernumscript. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody Overwhelming Posted July 14, 2004 Author Share Posted July 14, 2004 Quote: Originally written by Thuryl:He wasn't talking about your post, he was actually describing the program itself as "bloated". It's a fairly common term among programmers to refer to a program with more features than anyone will ever want, and it's a fair bit more constructive than "that program has no use". Then my apologies. Anyway, we were talking about its use with Avernumscript, the features I told about: color coding, project folder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody Overwhelming Posted July 14, 2004 Author Share Posted July 14, 2004 Quote: Originally written by Blank83:Crimson Editor has color coding as well, and it can be easily customized... you just need to make an spc and key file for the language. IT comes with 20 or so languages, so there are plenty of examples to look at, but I can't really decipher how they work. Otherwise I'd make one for Avernumscript. I didn't know that editor. Looks interesting, in the same line as Programmer Notepad. Cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Fort Posted July 14, 2004 Share Posted July 14, 2004 It certainly doesn't seem that bloated from the screenshot. I am currently using JEdit (which has the advantage of being cross-platform compatible) and I've used every one of its features except BeanShell on a regular basis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk UA Posted July 15, 2004 Share Posted July 15, 2004 Quote: Originally written by 20eyes: Quote: Originally written by Shining Lightbulb:Unlike some people, I don't need to have my code highlighted all pretty colours in order to be able to understand it. Don't tell me... You're one of those diehard purists who refuses to play Nethack with the colors enabled. Stop jumping to conclusions. There's a time for pretty colours but coding is not it! (And I don't play NetHack.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unflappable Drayk Djur Revolutions Posted July 15, 2004 Share Posted July 15, 2004 UA, you're a freak anyway. Colors aren't for looks, they're to help differentiate pieces of code from each other. For those of us who aren't freaks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curious Artila 20eyes Posted July 16, 2004 Share Posted July 16, 2004 Yeesh. Mr. Winkyface apologizes for his rash and denunciatory judgment of you, Shining Lightbulb. Isn't that right, Mr. Winkyface? You don't play Nethack?! What's WRONG with you? BAD Mr. Winkyface! Now cut that out! What Andrea said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk Shyguy Posted July 16, 2004 Share Posted July 16, 2004 It's a shame we have to deal with obnoxious, pompous a***s on these forums who love to make themselves sound so superior to the rest of us peons who don't know as much as they do and are just trying to be helpful. Overwhelming... Color coding is typically used in many coding based text editors and makes code easier to read and debug. Of course, we all know that the best programmers wouldn't need to rely on such a crutch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Donald Hebb Posted July 16, 2004 Share Posted July 16, 2004 Shyguy, that's Uranus Alien. The reason the rest of us don't comment on what he says is that we've become almost used to it by now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk Crunchy Frog Posted July 16, 2004 Share Posted July 16, 2004 Eh. I don't find this too useful. Colouring is helpful and the project feature could be useful I guess, but it doesn't do anything else I want it to. In particular, if you select a block of text, and press tab, it doesn't indent - it replaces the text with a tab character. Logical, perhaps, but I find it much more intuitive to press tab to indent a selected block than Ctrl-I or whatever weird shortcut key. Oh, and if word wrap is on, it won't jump to lines correctly. Blech. Nor will auto-indent work correctly. I'll stick with Textpad , thanks; it has shareware nag screens, but it's almost perfect for my uses. Find is mapped to weird keys, but other than that it's much nicer. It has colouring, too. Takes a small bit of fiddling to get it working, though; you have to make a new document class; Configure -> New Document Class, call it AvernumScript, use C colouring, and enable the class for *.txt files; then you have to go and delete *.txt from the Text document class to make it happy. Oh, and PC only, sorry Mac users. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Archmagus Micael Posted July 16, 2004 Share Posted July 16, 2004 Crimson Editor is much better. Trust me. I downloaded this one - and I didn't really like it. But then someone named... ***GREMLINCHIEF***(Won't put their real forum-name down) showed me the URL for Crimson editor. Check this out! Now that's a lot more helpful - especially since it's got a line counter. You should try THAT! Crimson Editor Download Page Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody Overwhelming Posted July 16, 2004 Author Share Posted July 16, 2004 Quote: Originally written by Crunchy Frog:Eh. I don't find this too useful. Colouring is helpful and the project feature could be useful I guess, but it doesn't do anything else I want it to. In particular, if you select a block of text, and press tab, it doesn't indent - it replaces the text with a tab character. Logical, perhaps, but I find it much more intuitive to press tab to indent a selected block than Ctrl-I or whatever weird shortcut key. Oh, and if word wrap is on, it won't jump to lines correctly. Blech. Nor will auto-indent work correctly. I'll stick with Textpad , thanks; it has shareware nag screens, but it's almost perfect for my uses. Find is mapped to weird keys, but other than that it's much nicer. It has colouring, too. Takes a small bit of fiddling to get it working, though; you have to make a new document class; Configure -> New Document Class, call it AvernumScript, use C colouring, and enable the class for *.txt files; then you have to go and delete *.txt from the Text document class to make it happy. Oh, and PC only, sorry Mac users. Aham... There's an "ident" icon there (one to ident forward and another to ident back) (look the icons to the right of the binocular, they're greyed out because there's no selected text) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody Overwhelming Posted July 16, 2004 Author Share Posted July 16, 2004 Quote: Originally written by Archmage Micael:Crimson Editor is much better. Trust me. I downloaded this one - and I didn't really like it. But then someone named... ***GREMLINCHIEF***(Won't put their real forum-name down) showed me the URL for Crimson editor. Check this out! Now that's a lot more helpful - especially since it's got a line counter. You should try THAT!Crimson Editor Download Page It's a nice editor. Someone already told about it in this topi, and it's in Spiderweb's links. But I think PN is a little bit more user-friendly (at least for newbies like me ) And it has a line counter too... Anyway, both are very similar. And tell me if the color coding and the project folder feature don't help alot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk UA Posted July 16, 2004 Share Posted July 16, 2004 Metapad has a line counter, and is essentially Notepad with some small enhancements. Andrea, I know what syntax colouring is for. Notice that my post was not "why on earth would you want your code coloured?", it was "I don't need my code highlighted pretty colours to be able to code." Anyway, I'm somewhat masochistic (have you seen me code CSS?) when it comes to code. I'm not intending to flame here, I just find coding easy enough without having to have my code highlighted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unflappable Drayk Reality Corp. Posted July 16, 2004 Share Posted July 16, 2004 Quote: Originally written by Archmage Micael:Crimson Editor is much better. Trust me. I downloaded this one - and I didn't really like it. But then someone named... ***GREMLINCHIEF***(Won't put their real forum-name down) showed me the URL for Crimson editor. Mostly everybody knows that I have/had an identity of GremlinChief. I don't see the real reason to hide my forum name especially since I was the one who brought that link to Spiderweb in the first place. Differences between the two programs: Programmer's Notepad Download size: 1,682,264 bytes Built in color-code syntax type schemes: 12 It can also switch to be a hex-editor...? But I found no way to switch from Carriage Returns to Line Feeds or vice versa. That could mean trouble when debugging code for BoA. Crimson Editor Download size: 1,159,660 bytes Built in color-code syntax type schemes: 17 Has a built in FTP program Can switch from CR to LF to both. Mostly all other features are the same, Crimson having some more advanced tools for programming. EDIT: For some reason, PN has a built in clock...why would one need a clock if there's one on the taskbar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyshakk Koan Tristrana Posted July 16, 2004 Share Posted July 16, 2004 Everybody here knows that RC is GremlinChief, as a sidenote. [the man himself beat me to it, dammit] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk Shyguy Posted July 16, 2004 Share Posted July 16, 2004 Has anyone tried ConTEXT? I've been using it and I like it. You can get it at http://www.fixedsys.com/context I believe it's just for Windows, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk Crunchy Frog Posted July 16, 2004 Share Posted July 16, 2004 Quote: Originally written by Overwhelming:Aham... There's an "ident" icon there (one to ident forward and another to ident back) (look the icons to the right of the binocular, they're greyed out because there's no selected text) I know, I saw that. But quite frankly, they suck. I'm using tabs to indent, but those buttons assume that I'm using two spaces. Terrible, just terrible... and in any case, my point stands, I shouldn't have to move my hand all the way over to the mouse just to indent a few lines of code. Quote: Originally written by Overwhelming:But I found no way to switch from Carriage Returns to Line Feeds or vice versa. That could mean trouble when debugging code for BoA. Forgot to mention that. I haven't bothered to upgrade to the version where the line number counting is fixed, and it insists on saving all my files with CRLF line endings. Silly thing. Edit: Forgot to mention, there is one thing I like about PN; if you select something, it shows you how many characters you have selected. Useful for seeing how long your strings are getting. But apart from that I hate it. Crimson Editor doesn't sound too bad. I used ConTEXT briefly in a Java programming class, and it was okay for that. No idea what it's like for AvernumScript, but whatever floats your boat. By the way... I'm currently writing a dedicated AvernumScript editor in Python. Fully cross-platform and with all the AvernumScript-specific features you could want! ... except it's not done yet, but it will be! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unflappable Drayk Reality Corp. Posted July 17, 2004 Share Posted July 17, 2004 Quote: Originally written by Crunchy Frog: Quote: Originally written by Overwhelming:But I found no way to switch from Carriage Returns to Line Feeds or vice versa. That could mean trouble when debugging code for BoA. I am GremlinChief but I am not Overwhelming, nor do I want to be. And the link for ConText gets me a busy page, I think. I'll try back later. Edit: Actually, the domain in itself has changed. It's now http://www.context.cx/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unflappable Drayk Djur Revolutions Posted July 17, 2004 Share Posted July 17, 2004 It's all about Vim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk Crunchy Frog Posted July 17, 2004 Share Posted July 17, 2004 Quote: Originally written by RC:]I am GremlinChief but I am not Overwhelming, nor do I want to be. Whoops. I copied and pasted the quote tags from Overwhelming's quote, but forgot to change the name. Sorry 'bout that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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